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Title: Scouts?
Post by: Celuvian on March 25, 2009, 06:57:56 pm
So theres like 1 active stealther in the company at the moment?
We should encourage more stealthers to join...they give great tactical advantage in a battle etc...

Also a stealthers should have a title like Company Stalker  <--- cool title! :)


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Raiden Morana on March 25, 2009, 07:02:07 pm
There's more than 1 active stealther matey.

Kal, Aliryl, Ludwik, Faden, JT and probably a few others I've missed.

But lets have more stealthers aye! And archers and mages and... and... ;)

"Pathfinder" has been the most popular title suggested so far but we're open to suggestions.


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Celuvian on March 25, 2009, 07:13:10 pm
Kal, Aliryl, Ludwik, Faden, JT and probably a few others I've missed.

Oh I tought there was just Kal...well not so bad then...but yea we should have even more! A stealther with tracking/ninjitsu should have Stalker title imo:)


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Linaeus on March 25, 2009, 07:52:56 pm
We dont want our scouts to sound like creepers, peeping toms, etc.  :P


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Khaelieth on March 25, 2009, 08:04:39 pm
Sexual Predator would be good for stealthers imo. Maybe they need Cooking so they can make sweets.


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Celuvian on March 25, 2009, 08:16:38 pm
Well try not to think of Stalker in the setting of a New York street in the year of 2009. Try to think of it in Cove town in the year of.....sword and shield and magic.


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Celuvian on March 25, 2009, 09:53:08 pm
Is/Should there/be a slightly different uniform code for stealthers/Pathfinders ?
The Ninja Jacket and Ninja Pants are very infashion for those kinda chars...and maybe some shades of green on certain parts...

*shrugs*


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Raven on March 26, 2009, 01:57:55 am
To be honest, when i was Scout Captain of The Order Of Haven, i had a ninja outfit, mixed with normal leather and I looked damned sexy and i think people made scouts just so they could wear the uniform. I do suggest something similar in cove.


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Hoagie on March 26, 2009, 10:05:03 am
Perhaps post up a screenshot of what this uniform looks like? I can't quite imagine it. ;p


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Raiden Morana on March 26, 2009, 10:31:09 am
Command is open to suggestions and a pic of the proposed outfit would be helpful.

We would like to offer as much flexibility as we can as long as it doesn't seriously affect uniformity and as such, I don't think greens or browns etc. would work.

Stick to sexeh shadow I say.  :D


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Celuvian on March 26, 2009, 11:45:50 am
A suggestion: (http://xs537.xs.to/xs537/09134/scout589.jpg)


Leather Ninja Hood
Leather Ninja Jacket
Leather Ninja Pants
Leather Gloves
Leather Gorget
Leather Sleeves
Ninja Tabi (footwear)


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Raiden Morana on March 26, 2009, 11:46:44 am
A suggestion: (http://xs537.xs.to/xs537/09134/scout589.jpg)

What does the avatar look like compared to a plain leather clad stealther matey?


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Celuvian on March 26, 2009, 11:51:41 am
Current Scout Uniform...boot color is wrong I know :-*

(http://xs537.xs.to/xs537/09134/scout2316.jpg)


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Raiden Morana on March 26, 2009, 12:00:18 pm
Current Scout Uniform...boot color is wrong I know :-*

(http://xs537.xs.to/xs537/09134/scout2316.jpg)

I meant the in game/on screen avatars not the paperdoll matey ;)


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Celuvian on March 26, 2009, 12:12:50 pm
Hah! Riiight:D

(http://xs537.xs.to/xs537/09134/sc141.jpg)


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Raven on March 26, 2009, 12:13:05 pm
Beat me to it :(

I have my own pictures to show:


(http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/3/3/26/callummm/f_MERCSCOUTDEm_2ff4d45.jpg)

(http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/3/3/26/callummm/f_MERCSCOUTDEm_7253232.jpg)

(http://img19.picoodle.com/img/img19/3/3/26/callummm/f_MERCSCOUTDEm_fd6c4d6.jpg)

(http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/3/3/26/callummm/f_MERCSCOUTDEm_e669d9f.jpg)




Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Raven on March 26, 2009, 12:16:00 pm
To be honest, it sucks with the arms on, arms without rocks.


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Celuvian on March 26, 2009, 12:16:50 pm
Hoh, the regular boots just dont shout stealth like the tabi does:P

I do agree on the leather sleeves tho, they shouldnt show through the jacket...


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Raven on March 26, 2009, 12:19:18 pm
But.. regular boots don't look that bad, and it helps tie the uniform in with the other mercenaries.


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Celuvian on March 26, 2009, 12:24:02 pm
If the Pathfinder's uniform gets changed to something like this, I would be mighty tempted to create one for Cove:D:D


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Raiden Morana on March 26, 2009, 12:30:04 pm
I agree with the boots.

The pants and tabi or whatever they are called make the avatars legs look puny.

Covians have powerful legs with huge strapping thighs. >_>

We'll consider what's proposed here and let you chaps know.

~ Raiden.


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Raven on March 26, 2009, 12:42:33 pm
I would too - if i was allowed :(


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Celuvian on March 26, 2009, 01:00:07 pm
Do you need permission? ???


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Faden on March 26, 2009, 01:40:16 pm
This is an excellent post and I don't mind wearing the gimp outfit. Raven your pictures are great :D

I think he if said if allowed he meant Once the outfit is approved by command.

I could create the suits on Spud too and distribute accordingly if desired.


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Celuvian on March 26, 2009, 05:03:42 pm
Yea Id be happy to make several sets for the Armory if needed.


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Celuvian on March 26, 2009, 05:43:20 pm
Also, those pathfinders with ninjitsu/poisoning should also be alowed to wear Ninja Belt with shurikens in it.


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Raiden Morana on March 26, 2009, 06:22:06 pm
Also, those pathfinders with ninjitsu/poisoning should also be alowed to wear Ninja Belt with shurikens in it.

The ninja belt represents a position of power within the Company as it did in the Covian army. So only Veteran Mercenaries and Officers may wear them.


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Celuvian on March 26, 2009, 06:24:51 pm
That would mean those with ninjitsu skill cant cast shurikens:(


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Raiden Morana on March 26, 2009, 06:29:47 pm
That would mean those with ninjitsu skill cant cast shurikens:(

Well then again there aren't many dojos in Cove for Covians to train it. ;)

Ninjitsu is still a restricted skill in BoC.

It was only available upon application to Scouts afterall.


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Faden on March 26, 2009, 07:09:10 pm
Raiden I don't want to sound like a party pooper here but restricting them to command only just for aesthetic reasons over functional/play reasons isn't too good. Perhaps we could think of another piece of apparel which command could have to show their deserved authority.

May we use these new gimp suits?


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Raiden Morana on March 26, 2009, 07:28:28 pm
Raiden I don't want to sound like a party pooper here but restricting them to command only just for aesthetic reasons over functional/play reasons isn't too good.

Ninja belts are not purely for Command use, they are awared to those who progress through the ranks to earn the rank of Veteran Mercenary or above.

I would rather restrict an item for cultural roleplay reasons rather than simply allowing it for the sake of utilising game mechanics.

The staple belt is as much a part of Covian history and culture as the Covian Cap, Chelmsford, Shadwell's peg leg, Arkay's pee obsession and Greystone's nautical navigation. Oh... And Hoagie's alleged pie eating.

Whereas Ninjitsu's origins lie in Tokuno and the skill always has been and still is restricted within BoC.

Giving up a piece of Covian roleplay culture that has been around for longer than I have for the sake of letting a select few people whizz silly lttle metal stars at eachother, well... It just isn't Covian!!!

If you want to use shurikens you may do so, by all means, having firstly convinced Command of the reasoning behind a none Tokuno national having learned the art of ninjitsu and secondly by advancing to Veteran or Hardened Mercenary or becoming an officer and part of Command. ;)

~ Raiden.


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Celuvian on March 26, 2009, 11:06:31 pm
Well there is also the fukiya dart, and I must surrender this cause I know the staple belt is a large piece of covian history.  Besides I just tested this and you can throw shurikens without actually wearing the belt:) Hurray!


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Marcus Kobra on March 27, 2009, 09:05:10 am
Ghua?!?!  So I gots to hand over my belt now ?!  Damn. . . .  I;ve had it since Junior rank back in the day. . . the day being 6 months ago but still the day....


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Raiden Morana on March 27, 2009, 09:43:11 am
Stable belts were awarded to Regulars. ;) :P


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Marcus Kobra on March 27, 2009, 10:16:09 am
:P I've had it since I picked up Junior.. . I think. I jsut know I go handed it as part of my kit :P


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Raven on March 27, 2009, 12:10:29 pm
Hehe, i dont think we need ninja belts on scouts anyway, because they are scouts, not ninjas.

And besides, Cove call them staple belts anyway, and the idea of using it to carry shurikens doesnt exist in Cove.




Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Celuvian on March 27, 2009, 06:41:45 pm
To be honest, it sucks with the arms on, arms without rocks.

Yea normal leather arms do kinda suck lookwise, easy fix is use hiro sode instead.

(http://xs537.xs.to/xs537/09135/ninja413.jpg)


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Valkur on March 27, 2009, 07:27:02 pm
I have a mess around char that has the detective skills, tracking, forensic, detect hidden, I could make that into a stealther also for scouting reasons, I dunno, just throwing that out there
 


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Faden on March 27, 2009, 08:57:02 pm
Thats a good idea for a stealther.

I don't like the gimp mask, my hair goes through it and it looks messed :(


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Celuvian on March 27, 2009, 11:30:19 pm
Well the mask could be optional, I just like the jacket and the pants alot, :)


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Faden on March 27, 2009, 11:36:30 pm
Well that would look good then :)


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Hawke on March 28, 2009, 08:38:06 am
I'd be interested in adding a stealther to the ranks also if I could  ;). Celuvian that Stalker title rang a bell, took me a little while but it was a specialist class for rangers in Balder's Gate 2

Stalker
Stalkers serve as covert intelligence gatherers, comfortable in both wilderness and urban settings. They are the spies, informants and interrogators and their mastery if stealth makes them deadly opponents.

Just a suggestion but why not allow the scouts to have a dress uniform and also a "work" uniform, with a little leeway on the work uniform....maybe limit it to mixing and matching of regular leather armor and ninja armor, colored shadow of course!

 I can understand the importance of uniformity for the regular (visible) members of The Company, but scouts aren't always seen...and sometimes if they are spotted wouldn't we maybe want some deniablity on The Company's part?


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Celuvian on March 28, 2009, 11:31:07 am
I'd be interested in adding a stealther to the ranks also if I could  ;). Celuvian that Stalker title rang a bell, took me a little while but it was a specialist class for rangers in Balder's Gate 2

Stalker
Stalkers serve as covert intelligence gatherers, comfortable in both wilderness and urban settings. They are the spies, informants and interrogators and their mastery if stealth makes them deadly opponents.

Just a suggestion but why not allow the scouts to have a dress uniform and also a "work" uniform, with a little leeway on the work uniform....maybe limit it to mixing and matching of regular leather armor and ninja armor, colored shadow of course!

 I can understand the importance of uniformity for the regular (visible) members of The Company, but scouts aren't always seen...and sometimes if they are spotted wouldn't we maybe want some deniablity on The Company's part?

Aye aye and....aye! :)


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Marcus Kobra on March 28, 2009, 01:07:45 pm
I think any idea is a good one, but nay ecpexct exotic Tokunian style armours to become readily available and even less likley to be authorized by the Command Structure. Stalker also sounds like a plausable title, it says assassin. The current popular title of Pathfinder says more Agent and scout type. Not all sneaks poison, so perhaps there is a true difference behind them. *Shrug*  Just my two bits.

-MK

As for that belt. . . you'll have to take it from my cold dead waist. Muahaha! J/K. . .  I'll take it off. But only after IG confrontation! Drama drama drama. O-M-G becky shes sooo dramatic.


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Celuvian on March 28, 2009, 02:06:07 pm
Stalker also sounds like a plausable title, it says assassin. The current popular title of Pathfinder says more Agent and scout type. Not all sneaks poison, so perhaps there is a true difference behind them.

Hallelujah!

But having Pathfinders and Stalkers would be confusing no? Unless someone came up with something brilliant..

The Scout/Rogue character I like to play is more an assassin than anything really.


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Raiden Morana on March 28, 2009, 03:07:10 pm
When the army was disbanded and we moved to The Company it was a concious effort to get away from squads. The squads just couldn't be sustained and we would have line ups with a couple of Grenadiers and a Scout, no squad trainings due to lack of numbers and the army just seemed disjointed.

In the Company we are trying to encourage "specialists" rather than squads and through "custom titles" we are trying to offer a greater flexibility and depth of roleplay for your characters. In short in The Company you can virtually be whatever you want to be within the realms of low fantasy and Covian cultutral roleplay.

In terms of the discussion regarding attire for stealthers, the staple belt will remain just that and be awarded to Mercenaries who achieve the rank of Veteran Mercenary or who join Command and become officers.

Mempos and ninja hoods, along with ninja mits will be allowed within the Company to those above the rank of Mercenary Recruit.

At this time ninja jackets, pants and footwear are not allowed in The Company as they affect uniformity negatively.

Thank you .

~ Raiden.


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Celuvian on March 28, 2009, 05:35:12 pm
*nods*

So those custom titles, if I were to say, throw out Stalker in the mix for my specialist stealther....specialist as in a stealthy assasin with ninjitsu and poisoning.

The title Stalker would much better fit my profession then Pathfinder. (actually pathfinder would fit rather poorly to my character)

 ;D


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Khaelieth on March 28, 2009, 05:47:10 pm
God damn Tokunese and Nihon folk setting up their dojos in Cove...


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Kas Valentine on March 28, 2009, 05:51:34 pm
Quote
When the army was disbanded and we moved to The Company it was a conscious effort to get away from squads. The squads just couldn't be sustained and we would have line ups with a couple of Grenadiers and a Scout, no squad trainings due to lack of numbers and the army just seemed disjointed.

In the Company we are trying to encourage "specialists" rather than squads and through "custom titles" we are trying to offer a greater flexibility and depth of roleplay for your characters. In short in The Company you can virtually be whatever you want to be within the realms of low fantasy and Covian cultural roleplay.

S'funny, as much as I always wanted an Arcanist division I think we're actually on a better footing now, for any kind of group. I agree on the disjointed comment, our old groups were fine when we had high activity but during the low periods they didn't quite work. Now that we have the specialists it's far better, ironically we're closer to any kind of squad as a lump that we were as separate groups. What I mean is, yes we're mercenaries, but for example some of us are Arcanists and can group together for battles as a squad would have (while at the same time presenting a unified front instead of a disjointed one).

The same goes for scouts, shield bearers, archers and so on. We can address situations in a number of different ways, we can utilise various different strategies on the battlefield, while at the same time not having to worry about being bogged down by running several different factions within one big faction.

We've got the best of both worlds....

A solid force, but a solid force of specialists.


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Celuvian on March 28, 2009, 05:56:13 pm
Brilliant Kas.. 8)


Title: Re: Scouts?
Post by: Raven on March 28, 2009, 08:13:16 pm
Wasnt ninjitsu not allowed?

Still, Stalker is a bit odd,  Pathfinder is alright?