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Title: The Future of BoC
Post by: Ben Radau on October 31, 2005, 09:08:33 am
Greetings everyone!
Because of my RL course I havenīt been able to play for weeks now, but I always visited the boards. During the past weeks the activities on our board became less, most posts were on the babble threat. Parallel to the reduced board activity was a reduced ingame activity, or so it seemed for me as an observer. And now, finally, our Baron leaves us.
Now some thoughts for the possible developement:
1. We have too much RP-activity. Donīt scream out loud, but if you take a look at the "still-active"-threat you recognize that most of us have 2 chars in the guild, most in the militia. But you canīt play both at the time... at least I canīt. So our possible activities get reduced by half. I suggest we stay to one principle: KISS - keep it simple and stupid... the church "died" by too less activity, and I fear our peasants will do so also. Letīs return to the roots.
2. We have to make a roll-call to see who will "survive" after the Baronīs leave and Valiroīs new guild...maybe even a restructure.
Okay, that were some of my thoughts... I really donīt like the idea of seeing another guild die... "BdF", a guild of another char of mine, got more and more inactive, Becca saw "ACE" break and reform, I hate it...

*sighs*

Had to say it...


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Raiden Morana on October 31, 2005, 09:54:49 am
Although Raiden is currently doing his Grenadier trials I'm still quite new to BoC and RP in general and so I think i'm as disappointed and distressed as anyone with what has happened in the last week or so.

It is fair to say that we have lost some good men to Grd and of course some very experienced men too but I think there are enough good men still left in Cove for the Baronship to prosper - whoever is in command.

I noticed from the boards that we seemed to have had a large influx of recruits in the last couple of weeks so i think it is up to us guys to make sure they have plenty to do - I know when i first joined I was always rounded up for patrols and sentry duties and i think it is up to us guys to make sure that 'em recruits are kept busy an' learn the ways o' the Militia. FOR COVE!!!

*encourages*


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Erik Arkay/Evinyatar on October 31, 2005, 01:28:15 pm
That's the spirit Raiden!

1) Making sure there's excited things to do.

- Don't always do the same dungeoncrawl. Be creative. Roleplay. Visit neighbouring towns. Set up some roleplay with the church or the citizenship.
- Especially when few people are online it's important to do a small patrol or hunt, gather some resources for the guild. Do a pilgrimmage. Go exploring, etc. Activity breeds activity so don't be alarmed when few people are online. Hang in there and more will come.

2) Recruit

- One of those things you can roleplay easily on your own is going to foreign towns and dropping off leaflets or talking to the people there (Try something different then WBB or Haven...Plenty of other towns, hotspots and even dungeons)
- Make sure you support recruits as much as you can. They're the lifeblood of the guild. Support them in developping their roleplay!

3) Establish some intrigue

Don't be afraid or don't wait for command to organize some intigue. DON'T go hopping through towns and locations looking for a fight, but visit other guilds, barter for items, drink an ale, try to hook into their plots, establish new ones.


BoC is as fun as you make it!


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Twothumb on October 31, 2005, 03:42:23 pm
A little notice from Vesper is that we welcome any interaction with you guys.

Be it we are going to you or the other way around....  both we welcomed.

Leeching on eachother events is something i am a strong beliver in so that events get a good turnout and the people who do events dont get burned out by trying to do to many events.

Apart from that I dont know enought on the BoC internal things to say much.


/Twothumb , GM of V


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Odenetheus on October 31, 2005, 06:19:19 pm
Remember, the church is your friend!

Seriously, I think that the future of BoC is bright, with all new officers and Command.


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Henrich Beaufort on October 31, 2005, 06:47:33 pm
I've certainly got some Scenario ideas floating about in my head, just hope something'll come of them, and they'll be enjoyable. :P

If we all stick at it, sure BoC'll have a bright future.


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Samuel West on October 31, 2005, 06:48:22 pm
Wistle Whilst You Work, Hugo Is A Jerk.
So The Churchy, They've No Mercy.
Hugo Is A Jerk!!
 :D


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Khaelieth on October 31, 2005, 07:30:37 pm
Had a look at SK today, was 5 ex- Covians and one Yewian :D This is but a plot to take over Yew!


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Erik Arkay/Evinyatar on October 31, 2005, 07:32:12 pm
Don't forget that those who left for GRD did so because they felt it was the best solution.

We wish them the best of luck and will remain dear friends!


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Samuel West on October 31, 2005, 10:40:01 pm
Ofcourse!  :) They are probelly right anyway.


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Gregor Eason on October 31, 2005, 11:53:10 pm
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!!?!
*EYES*


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Seamus on November 01, 2005, 12:26:59 am
Right cove was my first roleplay guild although i am in others and all i can say is that the guild is one of the best run and the most fun so dont despair anyone it will get better especially with Erik in charge and the return of our beloved but apparently dead commander


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Gregor Eason on November 01, 2005, 01:31:31 am
Watch the movies for my cunning escape!
http://cove.fantasyworld.nl

Check the sideboard, "An Ending..."


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: John Dell on November 01, 2005, 03:01:23 am
As i miss cove, i dearly do, John follows the baron anywhere, wich is why he had to leave for yew.

Gotta say though, its great. But we all miss ya. Anyhow Gregor, we all want to see the last part!


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Gregor Eason on November 01, 2005, 03:49:28 am
This is the last part :D


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Cal Soulshadow on November 01, 2005, 09:38:19 am
Just to say best of luck to those who stay in BoC. You've kept the best people (I knew you couldn't stay away, Eason!) so I'm sure you'll do just fine.
And of course, Kaldor is still here for some interaction should you be up for it.  ;D
We'll be staying blue to Grd though, so those guys who have gone there, it was nice knowing you, buh-bye now.


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Kaelith Anar on November 01, 2005, 09:42:48 am
It's great to see you back matey. :)

I need to find out IG sometime... somehow.


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Ahmed on November 01, 2005, 10:49:39 am
We're here to stay!  :D


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Shadwell on November 01, 2005, 11:40:48 am
It's funny how you guys suddenly returned. Shame its a month too late  :-[


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Hrothgar on November 01, 2005, 12:19:06 pm
I beg to differ Cal... You see i went to Grd ;) ;) ;)


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Shadwell on November 01, 2005, 12:24:46 pm
I wonder what Grd did to piss of Kaldor.  ;)


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Cal Soulshadow on November 01, 2005, 01:24:01 pm
Our RP styles just don't mix. The main thing is that we like to plan events (that's events, not the results of them) and want some warning if a guild is going to turn up en masse, whereas Grd are more spur of the moment and think it's OK to turn up with no warning at all.
I always had a pretty good arrangement with Eason about planning events so I'm hoping that will continue.


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Drachir on November 01, 2005, 01:42:04 pm
Frankly, in my opinion, good luck to all those people who joined grd..and i hope you get the best roleplay experience out of gard.

However, Cove is too strong to collapse yet, so i think it was a bad decision just because, 'Stonekeep is a good roleplay area'. Its like giving up something just because its not going the right way, if something's going wrong, strive to make it right again!

My goal from now on is to make Cove and the surrounding area, the next stonekeep as it were..without the annoying coifs *cackles*


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Samuel West on November 01, 2005, 05:09:06 pm
I got an idea.
As we have lost a large amount of people we should make the guild a bit smaller its hard to run a big guild with few people. It gets stretched thin.E.g. end up with 2 grenediers and 1 scout.


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Dellamona on November 01, 2005, 05:25:18 pm
edited to please some one ive never met in game


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Erik Arkay/Evinyatar on November 01, 2005, 05:29:15 pm
This is about the future of BoC guys.

We wish those who left to GRD the best of luck and hope we'll have many more fun moments with them. I know I'll surely miss each and every one of them!

I don't like negativism. Constructive remarks only please!


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Drachir on November 01, 2005, 07:51:28 pm
Regards to what Thomas Sendrich said, the size of the Baronship is what makes it unique..every now and then, someone who hasnt been online for a couple of months, comes online and has some good roleplay with the community, if we decrease the size by kicking everyone who hasnt been online for lets say....a month, then all those people will come back and think that we're not that nice and wont even think about coming back.
In conclusion, its better to have a big guild, and to know there'll be always someone online, than to kick a big percentage of the guild, and only have a few -always- playing...


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Samuel West on November 01, 2005, 10:17:51 pm
I didn't meen kick people out.  That would be mean  :)
I meant that we should decrease the size of the "Guild" Like not have as Meany divisions or don't have church templi's because there won't be enough people online at anytime to get good RP out of that part of the guild.
I don't won't people to be kicked out of the guild for not playing because i would be kicked out by now if that was true :)


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Odenetheus on November 01, 2005, 11:32:35 pm
Actually, I think that we should merge Templi and church, creaing one faith division.

As for the others, I vote for keeping it as it is.


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Henrich Beaufort on November 02, 2005, 12:02:00 am
I agree with that personally.

* One Avatarian Faith 'Division'
* Scouts
* Grenadiers
* Militia
* Citizenship

With the amount of currently active members, I don't think that's really spreading the Guild too thin atm.


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Odenetheus on November 02, 2005, 12:03:58 am
Erik made a splendid suggestion today.

Templars weill be in the militia, but when churchies are present, they will be under the command of those.


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Henrich Beaufort on November 02, 2005, 12:08:33 am
Hmm.. I'd certainly like to see it in action. Though if the Templars are in the Militia, will the Church not be left too small?

I'm hopeless when it comes to Religion, anyway. :P


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Odenetheus on November 02, 2005, 12:12:31 am
Well, technically they are still templars, just when they don't have templar business, they'll be serving as militiamen.


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Henrich Beaufort on November 02, 2005, 12:15:37 am
Yeah, that sounds fair enough to me. 


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Gregor Eason on November 02, 2005, 12:28:37 am
Interesting ideas.
Keep them rolling guys!

Remember. This is YOUR Guild! And it needs YOU more than ever!
Wrack ye brains! Think hard! We want ideas that will help BoC prosper once more!


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Samuel West on November 02, 2005, 07:59:29 am
Okay :) it was just a thought.


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Drachir on November 02, 2005, 01:46:05 pm
I will take it upon myself to sumn up this whole thread..

The Future of BoC - You!


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Khaelieth on November 02, 2005, 08:02:02 pm
and I want to get the militia doing citizen jobs btw, they're militia, not professional soldiers! ;)

Perhaps make it possible for them to earn shillings and then broaden the amount of what shillings can be used for.


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Henrich Beaufort on November 03, 2005, 03:04:49 am
Because of the uniform, Militia couldn't use shillings to purchase better armour, but what they could use shillings for range from armour repairs and new, better weapons to grub, and ale! This could, potentially, lead to BoC having its own Economy, which would really be complex and a hell of a lot of work... for e.g. Militia earn shillings for completing Assignments, or indeed Citizen Jobs, and spend them on what was previously mentioned. This would restrict BoC's members to use absolutely no UO Gold, and a lot of trust is involved (there'd be some swickers)... A difficult aspect: settings prices and constantly adjusting prices as the Economy changes.

Well, just an idea. Lots of worked involved though... Lots...


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Danichta on November 03, 2005, 03:25:56 am
The problem I see with that is ... as far as I can tell... there's no one person or place that keeps track of shillings at the moment. Either there would need to be a Shilling Watchdog, OR... we would have to find an actual "thing" to use as shillings, an actual currency. It'd have to be something unique that someone in the guild has control over. The first thing that comes to my mind is a player crafted item with a maker's mark on it.

But like you said, this could get too complicated  :-\


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Calico on November 03, 2005, 05:43:11 am
*swearing loudly*

VALIRO's GUILD?!  People need to tell me these thigns....  Ok, I've been playing this with 100% IC issues, compleatly ignoring any and ll OOC things during this time.  Kate is more loyal to the LC than Cove it's self since so many of her closer friends have a way of diseapering, dieing off and what not.  Not just the LC, vastly it's Valiro.  This whole time thats been what I've chanted.  "Kates sticking with Valiro, the LC come as a packaged deal"

Now, she would frisk off to Yew if Ryan ever shows up (assuming the dirty sneak dosen't play off his absicense as him having allready left for Yew to get away from her) she'd be toddling off to Yew or wherever with Ryan.  He'd be the only thing to take presidence over her respect for the stealth master.

You can see why even IC my loyalites are muddled, even being as simple as they are!

That out of the way...

3) Establish some intrigue - unfortunatly this is what Kate excells at but I'm not sure if shes coming or going or what so we will have to see... then again I do have a crafter that is Covian through and through,  Miss Claudi is my only crafter so yes.. *ahem*

I guess what I'm trying to say is my citizen is definatly staying and I'll haul her out of the dry mines now.. and Kate... is making my head hurt as ushual.


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Gregor Eason on November 03, 2005, 01:17:52 pm
and I want to get the militia doing citizen jobs btw, they're militia, not professional soldiers! ;)

Perhaps make it possible for them to earn shillings and then broaden the amount of what shillings can be used for.

For a long time we've actually wanted to have the Militia as more of a professional force, as opposed to farmers with pitchforks. We've trained so much in the past that we have really dropped the whole 'tacky, drunk guardsmen' thing.

A professional dispatch of Covian Guardsmen, as protectors of the Baronship; disciplined and well trained soldiers, is more the field we're heading for. With this in mind, "Cove Militia" may need some modification.
'Covian Guards' is probably the next best bet. Like the Scots Guards, or the Grenadier Guardsmen of the British Army.

The problem I see with that is ... as far as I can tell... there's no one person or place that keeps track of shillings at the moment. Either there would need to be a Shilling Watchdog...

His name is Ahmed :D


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Drachir on November 03, 2005, 01:49:11 pm
In regards to trying to make well trained Guardsman and such...I've taken it upon myself (i like using this quote by the way) to teach some of the recruits that are on in the evenings on weekdays, a few marching orders..for parades in public places..

I think this is a much better way to 'strut our stuff' rather than crowding around blues shouting, 'Fer Cove!' and 'Join em Militia! *cackles*'
It shows the public we have disipline, class and brains..

If any of you want to take note, these are some of the basic orders i have been giving (which, if you've ever been in RL army you will know, i have taken from the orders I was given as a Cadet in the Combined Cadet Force):

At ease: to acknowledge this command, just emote *relaxes* Or something of the like.
Attention: Use the 'salute' macro and emote *stands to* or something..
Salute to the Fore: One that is commonly used in the Baronship already which just means salute the way you're facing..

Ill probably make a full thread about this some time in the IC board..so keep checking!


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Gregor Eason on November 03, 2005, 02:09:06 pm
Good idea, Drachir.
I've been in the Reserve Forces and am currently in the University Officer Training Corps.
That sort o' shizzle we do lots :D

PARADE!
PARADE SHUN!
EEK!!
PARADE!
STAND AT... EASE!
Thew...


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Henrich Beaufort on November 03, 2005, 02:35:57 pm
I'd be more than willing to help with the Parade Element. I know most Parade commands, being a Cadet for some time. I think it's a great idea to incorporate this with the Militia.

I think if we were to develop and use this, the exact orders would have to be set.
For e.g.
When ordering Troops to stand to attention, I and I'm sure many others have heard a variety of commands...
"Atten...shun!"
"Squad...shun!"
"Parade...shun!"

We'd need specific orders that we'd all know, because people would get mixed up.

And yush, agreeing with Eason about modifying "Cove Militia" to "Covian Guards" or some such. Militia does suggest Peasants 'n' Pitchforks, and if the Cove Guards are to be a professional, battle-hardened Guard Force, 'Militia' doesn't really suit.


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Samuel West on November 03, 2005, 06:07:28 pm
How many cadets do we have in this guild?
And are any of you In the ATC?
By good to know on wing events. :)


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Gregor Eason on November 03, 2005, 07:04:47 pm
Officer Cadet Bajracharya, University of London Officer Training Corps :D

Formerly Ranger Bajracharya, D Company, London Irish Rifles, London Regiment :D


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Samuel West on November 03, 2005, 07:08:49 pm
So......... Is that a cadet? Or staff? Or armed forces?


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Gregor Eason on November 03, 2005, 07:37:50 pm
ULOTC is an Officer Cadet.
London Irish Rifles is TA.


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Samuel West on November 03, 2005, 07:43:57 pm
Got it! :D


Title: Re: The Future of BoC
Post by: Gregor Eason on November 03, 2005, 07:51:18 pm
Hope you can all attend the Guild mIRC Meeting this Sunday!
Check here for more details!
http://cove.fantasyworld.nl/forum/index.php/topic,3071.0.html