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Yes, it's idea spammage day...

At the moment the veterans of the guild are a bit lacking any clear 'promotion path'. Add that after months of service some soldier tasks are simply not refreshing enough anymore to do them on a daily basis and I would like to see what people thought about a change here. I'm thinking about such characters as Gregor Eason, Hrothgar, Grief, Kal Shadowhand, Tiberius, etc. People who want to keep their guardsman because they DO want to participate in guardsmen duties from time to time and battles but who might be looking for a change to liven things up a bit.

Why not make it so that senior guardsmen (or simply veterans regardless of rank) can adopt a dual guardsmanship/citizenship status? Grief's already done something like this with the Green Goblin. But maybe one of those veterans might feel more inspired, motivated or generally have more fun again if they could open up some sort of business or profession.

I'm thinking about people who might want to build a Trade Imperium doing trade caravans, someone who wants to found some sort of business (face it 90% of the things sellable as a BoC merchant don't really require skill to make and can be purchased from an npc), Someone may want to double as a warrior-cleric or disciple, Someone may wish to settle down RP having a family or anything of the likes. Basically anything that would keep the old dogs still interested doing 'new' stuff and starting new projects while still retaining the possibility to perform as a guardsman (Like a reserve force of some sorts)

Thoughts? Especially thoughts of the old coots honorable veterans?

I think thats quite a kool idea.

And aye, the promotion path isn't quite clear - but I suppose the opportunity is there for the veteran guardsman to use his/her own imagination to invest into the Guild. Any original ideas about setting up a Business or starting a Family would probably be kindly accepted and appreciated by the Baronship.

Its hard to detail a clear cut set of options, because truly.. the possibilities are endless.

But indeed, Grief is pretty much a fine example of this concept.

Nobility is one thing they could do. Earl of Altmere, anyone?

Shopkeeping is one thing, perhaps they get one of the jobs in the Baron's Household?
i.e.
Erik Arkay, tea boy

EDIT:
WHAM. Idea.
Knights! Sir Eason!

Nice idea.

These more senior members would surely hold fairly high standing in civilian life and indeed positions in the Baron's Household as well as business opportunities and family life are all good alternatives.

Perhaps become fishermen and forage the ocean for adventure and treasure or become traders or farmers etc. Or like Erik says become churchies as either peaceful clerics or warrior monks?

The concept should provide some new/diverse events for guardsmen and civilians alike.

Something to ponder perhaps.

Its a good idea - But I don't see why they don't do this anyhow? Just because your a guardsmen doesn't mean you can't do anything else!

Errr, Averions been in the army for, well, four months now. That count as veteran? If so, great idea mate!

Veteran? VETERAN? He's nothing but a wee little baby compared to the likes of Eason and Hrothgar! Then agean....Hrothgar must be what, 456565643 years of age now? (I kid, my friend, I kid!)

Veterans maybe like +2 years?

So... *GASPAGE* I'm a veteran!

But that the veteran guards become churchies might be an idea (a choice, of course). Makes the Church stronger.

I'm inclined to agree here; no-one is stopping them setting up a side business or enforcing the church if they want to. It's always a bit of a difficult task to make the guild interesting for those very old players, so to some degree the player has to make it interesting for him or herself. Having said all this, I can't see Tiberius selling much! Perhaps his own brand of ale.. *Ponders*

Pretty much sums it up.

I think the point here is that the veterans don't really have a clear choice...I'm thinking we may seem a bit forced into only the role as a guardsman...Not also has a citizen (in the least)...

Exactly! If we wanted to role play as guards, we would join a militia or a military guild.

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Yeah, but it can't be helped really.
I know Grd hit this wall donks back, and they created the Nobility System, which gave their veteran characters something to aspire to. And I suppose BoC Command could churn something up, but ultimately its down to the initiative of the character/player to create something new and enjoyable for the Community, and him/herself.

Grief did it.
Me t'inks it is something to do with being bald.
*Frowns*

Ahah! Yes!
Upon reaching the heights of the Covian ranks, one must then begin their journey through the Art of Jig Fu! Mastering the various stances, of which their origin lie in dark and sinister parts of Britannia, and beyond!  :-*

 Very good idea.

I've got an idea: maybe the Veterans could organize weekly wheelchair races some kind of schools - training other arms(wo)men in an individual way focused on some specific skill - maybe Archers Range, Fencing Academy or alike...

I think that in means of RPing it would be an honour to be chosen by some legendary person of the army which will train me and my skills...

I've hit the promotion barrier a long time ago, and ever since that time I've been trying to create my only little world in the baronship household. Even so that I've made most structure designs that we hold to this day. Truth admit that grief has never really been a very active event organising guardsman. I've always strived to make grief as much a guardsman as a person. Ever since he started managing the tavern this has been really easy, and that meaning managing the citizen element for quite some time subsequently as well. Grief is a guy you can come to for militia business, but for citizen affairs as well. As roleplayers I think we strive to make our character as versatile as we can.

I'd encourage any of the old foo's around here to start looking beyond the horizon of just roleplaying your character as a guardsman.

Like Jig Fu!
Speak to Grief.

rofl!

Now that's something for Raiden to aspire to in his old age.

That's the entire point of the topic. Getting old coots and young dogs alike starting to think beyond the guardsman duties if you start to feel the monotomy set in. In short, develop a more realistic and multidimensional character

You think I'm joking? Its going to happen! :D

Well that's a great idea - IMO allowing arms(wo)men to not wear uniforms off-duty would greatly help seeing military as almost normal people :)

Agreed to Tib. even the path isn't clearly defined it doesn't mean you cant walk on it. It only depends on how much effort you are willing to put into your alter ego ,or not. I guess the problem arn't the missing opportunities but the laziness we are all struggling with. The one more the others less.  Gimbly maybe more than others *coughs*. Even if he didn't reach the end of the regular guardsmen career ladder (like Kal, Tib etc). But after years i really cant arse myself patrolling or doin sentrys or other regular guardman stuff only to get up two more ranks and face the same problem or situation i'm facing right now.  And tbh there' s no really reason to do so. We dont have wages from which higher ranks would benefit , no goodies we would get from those higher ranks above Regular. So other things like greater events (wars) and Grens stuff keep me logging in atm.

I could set up a hair dressers on Mela. Then again people would be coming out with bald patches and bright green hair.

Set up a hairdressers with Grief!

Bright Green hair, huh?  Sign Conan up..  :D

Well I think it is a good Idea and beings that Kal uses potions maybe he can set up a potion shop, and a Fencing School as he is also an elder fencer. I will give some thought on how I can go about this and see if I can set it up.

Nice one Kal! ;)

I think that if and when Amon makes burgher that he and Raiden will go into business opening a shop of sorts selling supplies to guardsmen and offering work to crafters etc. to keep it stocked.

The shop i think will be the ground floor of my cottage so all my junk will have to go upstairs. There goes the double bed but heh! I wonder if they'll want it for the museum?! :P

Raiden of course will be a silent partner he's a lot of years service in him before he turns into a shopkeeper although i think he may broaden his horizons by learning the art of jig fu' in the meantime.

The fencing school idea sounds very cool.

Maybe some veteran might consider opening self-defence classes for civilians :)

Im thinking of being a combat teacher in the art of macings and swords as Demarian has had a vast experience with both and cn help recruits and others to learn the way of war!

A while ago i ran a survival course with a few people, which was great fun to be honest, the SoS (surpreme outdoor survivalists).

So when Jen returns, if this things up and running i'll gladly run that more regularly, since i think only three people graduated >.<