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Straight from Americas very own CNN (Crummy News Network)

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/02/14/children.survey.reut/index.html

check that link and tell me if the US and a few of her allies dont sound well.... good!!

No wonder there is emo and goths :P  *looks atself in the mirror* "Now is that really why you are how you are??? hmm nope"

Your point being? :D

My country and them SEE-O-FIST-IC-ATED Brits scored least!! arg!! im moving to the netherlands damnit!!

That's what you get for being isolated on an island for ages  ;)

Ha! Dutch sophistication, we beat the rest! We are truly the most advanced race on earth.

Hmpf! Close second

While I usually tend to stay away from politics on the BoC forums, being the Baron (a man of action and war, not babbling!) I think the this isn't all too surprising, although disappointing. It seems to me increasingly American culture has become predominant amongst the youth here in Britain; and thus has linked the results of the two nations together. To a degree Britain is just becoming an example of America's problems on a smaller scale. It isn't surprising that Sweden and the Netherlands topped the list, owing to their comparatively smaller population and considerable wealth.

Britain is a fairly varied place in terms of distribution of wealth, and therefore, this shows in the results. I think it would have been fairer if the UK was split into its individual countries (Wales, Northern Ireland, Scotland, England) for the terms of a more accurate comparison. I don't deny Britain overall has a problem with its youth; this is clear to see on the streets. It will be interesting to see what the government does with such information. More likely than not, they'll spend vast amounts on consultants and give teenagers iPods if they don't mug old people. ;)

Social interaction and antropology in general change rapidly.

If you'd try to explain to a fellow human living in the early nineteenhundreds that your child would not be starting to work in a sweatshop by the age of nine you'd probably never get your point through.

If you'd try to explain to your fellow man in the middleages that the sun didn't revolve around the earth you probably would have been burned at the stake.

Wether or not those are 'good' evolutions depend on your view of good and wrong. But realise that your vision of good and wrong is also highly biased and probably unfounded.

Now enough of this serious babble and let's get back to discussing pee!

Wasnt attempting to be political here, I was jsut shocked and well a little upset that my home country came in SECOND to last! And yes I didnt include it in my post but I do feel that the UK should have been split into its individual um... Parishes? Counties?? States?? Things?? yeah things covers jsut about everything!!

Norway, sweden being wealthy? It was pointed out that some of the poorer countries had the better standard of living for youths.

Anyway I liek this babble better than your PEE Mister Arkay!

Oh and does the Baron not sound likes hes a proffesional??? not to mention OLD???

J/K!! damnit hes gonna behead us all!!!

Having lived in Norway and now living in Scotland... I say that the U.K. and Norway just whine more than the rest. I had a great upbringing (Not saying all had!)!

Like: Everyone does get teased at some point in life, to a lesser or greater degree. It's how you tackle it yourself. If you let it bring you down, you lose.
Then you've got restrictions. A family member (Delc and Snud might know, perhaps even Smud) whines and whines about how she can't be allowed to drink when she was thirteen. There's a lot more to it that I chose not to divulge, but they're spoiled. I've had a GF that lacked NOTHING but still was emo. You've gotta feel sorry for those who sit inside at night feeling sorry for themselves without any specific reason.

I'm not saying a lot of kids don't need a better upbringing, but that there's a lot out there who whine, attempting to be sad, in a futile attempt to get some affection. They're just spoiled. I know a few who've had to deck their parents to avoid being knifed to death. That's tough.

You DID NOT just call my nation poor!

I consider Sweden more wealthy then the USA in more then one way. We take care of our children, we take care of our unemployed, we take care of our old. We take care of our ill and we take care of our immigrants. I don't know what you're getting at, but calling my country poor when you have more loans then dead soldiers is ignorant and rather rude in my opinion!

Errr... Sweden is a lot better off economically than the U.S. According to some statistics I've read, close to 30% of the total population of the U.S. live in poverty. This is counting illegal immigrants, though it's only an estimation.

EDIT: And this is why political/social issues shouldn't be discussed.

Economically is not the only way for a nation to be rich either. We're generally more happy in Sweden -- Unlike a report created by an American who needed to find a weakness of the success that Sweden had even though having a social democratic goverment and a big wel fare system, who claimed that Sweden was one of the top nations in suicide, which was a lie as we are very far down on that list.

I am quiet frankly hurt and insulted by your claims!

Ahem.. I was pointing out something said in the report... was not saying sweden was poor.... Did anyone of you READ the report?? sheesh. I would never  insult someones country on purpose, and if I entended to I'd do it to their face so theyd have the chance to hit me if they wished. It was pointed out in the report that wealth had NOTHING to do with the quality of living and ointed ou that some of the other countries who dont have that high of a Gross Per Capita had better markings.. that didnt MEAN all the top 1-5 are poor and that the 5-10 are rich bastards with way too much money on their hands.

My country (USA) is in so much debt I cant see us comming out of it in the next 100 years! but hey thats why money is digital and we have credit cards and a few other things I wont mention!! I'l lalso admit that the netherlands in general have terrific health and welfare services!! Canada also seems great!

And I do beleive that report was formed in the EU not in America

Right.. well apology accepted then.

..>_>

But I dont appologize.... I never insulted. I just wish to agree that some other guy SAID it i jsut pointed out what he said.

Well I guess I'll stand to what I said then. I'd grab the closest blonde and wack whoever talk bad about my country in the head with it.

O.O *blinks* I jsut so happen to be blonde  (anyone notice that if you want to use dogs to describe people country that the USA is represented by all of the finest breeds..... in one dog!! A damned mongrel!! LOL and dont anyone say it aint so!! ) Ok i've bashed my own nation well enough for one day *goes off to get jaked on Hornsby's*

IMO the money isn't the most important thing that makes children well.

Take my country as an example - Poland. 14 on the said list. Treated as a poor country. Well, it is poor, damn poor. And although we have problems with poverty, unemployment etc, I can't blame money (or lack of it) for unhappy children.

Kids needs their parents attention, feeling of being loved and worthy. Also children must know what is he/she DISallowed to do, because without such knowledge a young person doesn't know what's his place in his house, his family, his society - this leads to disrespectful behavior and to many many other things, that we can't be proud of.

Returning to money - IMO having too much money turns to be more dangerous than living poor. Although wealth eases lots of things, but it's very easy for a kid to learn that he can get everything that he wants, if his parents doesn't use their money wisely.

I'm getting to the point, that it's not important if you live in USA, UK, Norway, Poland, Ukraine or Somalia. If you give your kids enough time, care and love, you're an a very good way to raise a child, of which you will be proud of - because it's a great chance that he will become a good human.

And please... Cut the bullshit about which country is better... Geeez....

UK > Sweden!

*slaps dell*!

hihihihi, honestly i think these reports are a bunch of bullshit, theres no way to measure the standard of life of children correctly in a certain country short of asking every kid in the said countrys how they are. And even then kids lie... dirty rotten bast.. Anyhow.. yah i made my point  ::)

The general atetyude of the generation can make a huge effect, If a large percent of young people decide to turn to drugs it is likely they will pull down a lot of their friends.
As a result, this could change dramatically of the next generation.

Also i think that the Governments attempts to protect children are getting in the way.
Like when i was young my parents smacked me for anything i did wrong, and now I'm an Okay guy.
My brother on the other hand hasn't been smacked as much and is a complete twat most of the time.

Aye, asking a kid who didn't get an Xbox 360 for Xmas and asking if he's happy... Well, you know the answer.

Well Labor goverment suck they just fucked up the country really!
I agree with Tom, im an alrite guy now but you get these id's coming into school now and they get cheekier and cheekier until well,they get bullied or beaten up, thats the school reality good thing im not at school anymore :D

But Britian is a bit messed up with the child protection thing,once you've been it by a cane you will never do anything wrong again i tell yer :(

Just because labour may have torn your country apart Josh does not mean that it does in every other country that has a labour government. I'm not a big fan of labour, however the Swedish labour party has built Sweden to what it is today, bad and good. And the fact that we take care of each other and that Sweden is a great nation to grow up in (at the moment. Not to discuss the current development) means that labour has worked here. However, with a nation like Sweden that has an incredible trust in the government and the same labour pretty much all the time create gaps and make politicians focused on holding power rather than developing the country.

Ok i had jsut wrote alot on this most recent post... but i decided to delete my writting.
Question:

Should I lock this thread???

Probably. As we all can see, each topic which has even a slight national/political background leads to senseless comparisons and not-very-nice comments adressed to other people...

Hence why I don't post in such thread usually...Lock this senseless..."babble"...Babble ain't meant to mean anything anyhow... *nods sagely*

OI! *wacks Khae for no good reason!!*

That depends. We Scots have different laws than you. And it's U.K. Labour, seeing as there a lot of different labour parties out there, the one in Norway being distinctively more lefty. And Thatcherism screwed the U.K. Most Scots still hate her passionatly. But this is off-topic.

LONDON, England (Reuters) -- Britain is ranked last for childhood quality of life among industrialized nations, the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF) said in a report on Wednesday.

The charity looked at 40 indicators to gauge the lives of children in 21 economically advanced nations, the first such study of its kind.

The study found Britain lagged behind on key measures of poverty and deprivation, health and safety, relationships

Apparently, it's UNICEF (not the E.U.) that's done the report. But this is statistics, I don't think you can measure "well-being" and "happiness" in any precise manner. How they conducted the report is also worth knowing. Did they get kids to fill in a sheet with "how happy are you? Choose a number, 10 being best." Or did they measure this up against the average amount of education? I'm doing statistics at Uni, and this is very strange.

The Dutch scored 10th place when it came to wealth, so that is not the issue here.
It's quite simple really. Weed! Am I the only one to see this?

This thread now LOCKED, please continue in your own private circles. thread was never intended to insult anyone and well its become apparent that it has... SI'm routing a sugestion that political/economical/ topics not pretaining dirrectly to BoC or UO be nixxed and considered Contraband.