Title: Shield rules Post by: Faden on May 13, 2007, 06:25:09 pm Hello,
Is it true that certain ranks can only use certain shields? Where can I find information about this? Title: Re: Shield rules Post by: Jack Sinist (•̪●) on May 13, 2007, 06:33:17 pm Yes. As it stands the junior ranks are allowed to use the standard black metal shields. While the dragoons for example may use chaos shields.
Title: Re: Shield rules Post by: userjosh5368 on May 13, 2007, 06:35:27 pm Grenadiers use Heater Shadow iron shields, and Scouts if permitted can use Bucklers shadow iron colour
Title: Re: Shield rules Post by: Jack Sinist (•̪●) on May 13, 2007, 06:49:07 pm Scouts are not allowed to use shields.
Title: Re: Shield rules Post by: Amy Marsteller on May 13, 2007, 08:22:33 pm Why can't scouts use sheilds? I haven't seen anywhere that says they can't...
Title: Re: Shield rules Post by: Faden on May 13, 2007, 09:47:56 pm Surely a fencer scout could weld a shield, its a primitive armour and anyone can pick up a shield. What would stop a scout from using one?
Title: Re: Shield rules Post by: Mela Arkay on May 13, 2007, 11:16:07 pm The shield thing isn't an actual rule for now, more like a unwritten one. Valiro used a buckler for when he was doing fencing matches but thats about it. I think until its been proper decided between me and the guys upstairs ( ;D) that shields including bucklers shouldn't be used for Scouts, this doesn't stop the recruits using them though.
Title: Re: Shield rules Post by: Amy Marsteller on May 13, 2007, 11:39:08 pm Alright, but why wouldn't they be allowed to use a shield?
Title: Re: Shield rules Post by: Mela Arkay on May 14, 2007, 12:39:01 am Its awkward I guess. Walking unseen with a shadow, also would get in the way, need at least one free arm -really-.
Title: Re: Shield rules Post by: Jack Sinist (•̪●) on May 14, 2007, 01:13:09 am And I reckon it defeats the point of the Scouts being light armoured, free to move and so on.
Title: Re: Shield rules Post by: Mela Arkay on May 14, 2007, 02:39:56 am Yea deffo what Jack said too.
Title: Re: Shield rules Post by: Moraine DiGoraz on May 14, 2007, 04:34:54 pm Not quite true, scouts generally function as skirmishers.
Skirmishers are almost always equiped with a shield, albeit a small one such as a buckler. However, in UO it's also about game mechanics and template balances and with that said the shield parry bonus should be reserved for (heavy) infantry only. Apart from that a scout should not even have room in his or her template to take up parrying! *rants about how real scouts should have tracking* Swordsmanship / Parry / Tactics / Healing / Anatomy / Focus = infantry template + chivalry / bushido = heavy infantry template Hiding / Stealth / Tracking / Detect hidden = ranger (scout) template (even if you just have 50 tracking / detect hidden) Hiding / Stealth + infantry template = assassin template (NOT SCOUT!) Anyway, I have given up on this a long time about... around the same time I gave up on the fact that people from Yew are YEWANS and NOT YEWISH! Title: Re: Shield rules Post by: Dalamar on May 14, 2007, 06:26:57 pm I don't see how light wooden shield strapped properly on back would hinderer movment more than 150cm tall bow. Moving unseen in forrest isn't realy what you think, i assume. It's more of angles compared to others than items. And most important thing is to break head-shoulder line, where shield would actualy help it... anyways it's from real life, this is game so I don't care...
Title: Re: Shield rules Post by: Khaelieth on May 14, 2007, 09:43:10 pm I don't see how light wooden shield strapped properly on back would hinderer movment more than 150cm tall bow. Moving unseen in forrest isn't realy what you think, i assume. It's more of angles compared to others than items. And most important thing is to break head-shoulder line, where shield would actualy help it... anyways it's from real life, this is game so I don't care... 150 cm tall bow?! YOU PANSIES. Always had my doubts about you guys in tight-fitting leather armour. YMCA indeed. Title: Re: Shield rules Post by: Jack Sinist (•̪●) on May 14, 2007, 09:52:17 pm Scouts would use short bows then for it to make more sense.
Title: Re: Shield rules Post by: Dalamar on May 14, 2007, 11:20:53 pm I don't know how small you think bows are but... 150cm bow ain't big one...
Title: Re: Shield rules Post by: Moraine DiGoraz on May 19, 2007, 10:16:17 am Why not use crossbows?
(am I the only one who was thinking this?) |