Welcome to Cove

First of...tell us a little bit about yourself. Do you have alts in the guild, in other guilds, is your BoC character an alt? Etc..

I personally have one UO character I play most of the time....Erik. I have a commoner called Evinyatar who's a member of BoC as well and that's it. I hardly play Evinyatar and I fully realise he's a lesser character for those reasons.


My take on it is that extremely few people are able to pull off more then one character. It takes a lot of effort to really flesh out a character and start giving it a personality that's perceived as such by others. Too often these 'alts' are shallow characters with not enough playtime or effort invested to make them unique. I believe that they lessen the overall RP experience with the abundance of shallow characters. On the other side there are quite a few interesting characters who're going to waste because they're playing on their other characters, which is a shame.

Another note is the lack of Guild Commitment, with capitals. I may be old school, but I still believe that joining a guild is a commitment. I'm no longer in command but I know very well how much effort it takes to run a guild like BoC. Members receive a lot from BoC and that would not be possible if not for the people who show the commitment refusing to have a gazillion alts floating around and simply log in where the action is. I think that's a bit shallow and once again, does not help the overall RP atmosphere.

I'd like to say I'm a 100% dedicated member of BoC....Who else can say that? Come on, I know you're out there, step up! Who's here to help build the greatest guild in history and who's here just for the ride?

Add-on:

This is also one of the biggest reasons that a citizen element is difficult to get underway and the church often misses credibility....Too many citizes/churchies are alts....I find that all the characters with not enough time and effort invested contribute very little in most cases.

Hmmm... I may be the best or worst person for this depending on your point of view :P

I play:

Raiden Morana, Grenadier Corporal - Trusty old Raiden, my main character - gone from bright eyed recruit to Grenadier Corporal with plenty of Gahs, Hars and ctrl-s's along the way!

Amon Jarl, Covian Citizen - My first UO character and risen through the civilian system to the rank of Citizen. Still fleshing him out in terms of personality - but a very helpful sort of chap.

Perun, Junior Scout - *smiles evily* Unfortunately she doesn't get a great deal of game time but she maybe has the most exciting personality of my characters. She is definately damaged goods.

Sallust - Get's hardly any game time and has noooo real personality development. Was part of the ECTC a while back before Khae & Jessica took a break and not really used him since except to keep my other characters in scrolls and poison.

I did, dare I say it have another alt in a rival guild for a very brief period earlier this last year but he is a blue again now and never gets used.

Sooo... I dunno. I understand what Erik says about shallow characters and the difficulties alts bring when they cant sustain areas of the guild i.e. church + civvies etc. - Sallust is a point in fact and Perun too in terms of game time but I think her "character" is worth having her around here and there.

However I like to think Amon has been good for the civilian side of things and I love "playing" Raiden ;)

EDIT: I like to think that at least 3 of my four characters add to BoC and the Covian culture and also show how committed to the cause I am ;)

I've got two characters, which I think I split the time equally between.

Khae: Well, most of you know Khae and know how he is ;)

Lil'alure: My drow. When I want to be vicious, sadistic or generally nasty, I play Lil'alure. Which is about 50% of the time. His personality is well fleshed out, and usually with a hidden agenda within a hidden agenda, which causes mildly erratic behaviour at times. Some people think Lil'alure is a girl when he's hooded, due to people paying more attention to name than anything else. Currently, Lil is a member of F^L.

Declan Innes: My oldest surviving character and the second I created. He's a mule and in BoC, but for no specific reason. I never use him for anything but crafting.

Tyron: Used to be active on him, a few might have seen him.

Valandil: My pacifist druid! Never play him.

I don't have any mains anymore as I more or less focused on UD on Hybrid. But I have had about 5 Unique characters, 3 at the same time.

I've always been loyal to BoC and only had one character till the day when the Baron went to Yew and my character followed him. And I had fun in the new guild, although most of the people that went from BoC returned, I didn't. But I still loved BoC so I made this character, now he was mainly to be like an event character but I had fun playing something completely different from John, so I let him live.

I later got a chance to have a good position in UD (Although somewhere around there I helped that blond guy start CDPL up but anyway) so I took it.


Its not really hard to play several completely different characters if you just put your mind on it and go in for it. I mean, surely that's what RP is about, pretending to be someone your not. If you have a hard time role playing two characters differently, is your first character really different from yourself in real life?


I might act like it, but I'm really not a 7ft retard. Or a stuck up smart ass either.  ::)


But like I said, I was dedicated till I either get kicked out or lead out. (I was even dedicated to Grd once :o)

Teagan, Flina & Mela.

Are the only actual characters I really play. I have crafters but I use them when really needed.

You know full well Mr.Arkay I'm capable of alting quite easily because im used to it.

Split persona can do that.

Ahhaha, maybe I am a smart ass.

I have two characters currently in BoC, Eve and just recently Axiana a commoner.

I wanted to experience both the army and citizenship, and enjoy trying to make them dissimilar to each other.

Where,...do i start!?

Edward O'shea: My first character in RP terms. He was active for about a month befor i stopped playing UO.

Keldon: Had a bit of trouble on him.

S'ilar S'adow: I didn't really like his personality or the way he turned out.

AVERION!!: Everyones favourite quarter Orc. Ya know it's true!

Gralsnek: Full orc and recruit guardsman, Nifty with a mace ;)

Spike Milligan: My insane character, active on him.

If there's any i missed i'm sure Mela can fill us in :)

I have so many alts i can't remeber which is which though i only realy play on Richard now

I have five characters in BoC, but two of them are little more than around for administrative and equipment reasons. The other three I play regularly, and I'd like to think that Tiberius, Octiovus, and Sir Hugo were all quite varied and well developed characters. While I concur not a lot of people can really pull off more than one character (which generally tends to be modelled on their own personality) convincingly, people like variety and that's what keeps a lot of people playing UO.

I play Odenetheus and Trelos (Maestro of CDPL.), and Hikage no Kumo. I think I do a pretty good job at keeping them unique.

I only have problems with one sort of characters. Horny 14 year olds who create "Half-succubus, half-drow sex fiend women." Even Veldrin has more of an idea about how women act than they do! :D

I play Jenifer Feather.. at least 90% of the time.. You all know Jen and all know her personality.

I also have a character called Dylan Freewater, i use him for when i don't want to die easily and do some damage >.< He is a fully developed (in my eyes) character in that i know all the details about him and he acts completely differnt to Jen.

I agree it is difficult to play multiple characters, but not impossible... and i agree that it is hard to fully play one character if you have many... but that doesnt stop them being fully developed characters.

I've had one or two BoC alts in the past, but they've never flourished.

Its pretty much just been Eason..
Can't really split myself that well  :D

And since I joined BoC (November 2004), I don't think I've joined any other Guilds. I was thrown into Command right from the beginning, so all my efforts were invested in Cove. I have left UO to play other games, however, and to level up in RL  :D

wot lvl r u irl?

My only BoC character is the ale-luvin carpenter, Qom Yggdrasill Riyadh. I do have other character, but he is rather under-developed (c'mon, I'm playing UO for 7 months now...) at the moment, and I'm not sure if he is going to be guilded, but his presence won't be left unnoticed for Covians... Right now, I'm going to play only Qom, because I very enjoy seeing the civilian part of BoC raise, and raise, and raise....

Well thats wierd man, seeing how she isn't a woman irl :o


What about that newly created character that got murdered outside of the tavern. :D

I've only had one alt, Yrmis Gryfh Yir. He's a bandit, gang-member of THE HATS. Legendary gang. Rex Richter and Elminister were my fellow gang-members.

I've never bothered much with alts. Grief is already sweet enough.

Level 69 ftw!  :P


Thass the one!

My 'main' is Garak Nightchill, my guardsman char.  He's developed differently than I first intended, at one point I intended to play him as being a bit insane, but that can be difficult to pull off and still 'get stuff done' at the same time.  He's still a bit eccentricand erratic but the nature of the job steadies him.

Roland Dagorian.  He was my first rp char on Europa and the first one I had in BoC.  He was originally a Guardsman though was always pious and believed in the Church.  He eventually ended up as a Templi Squire in the Church.  He's more of a 'one-dimensional' char though I do try to keep him fleshed out.  As a Squire I kept him fairly naive and not entirely cold.  He'll become more cold-hearted as he gets older.

Reynard Destain.  My other churchie, Cove's "beloved" Bishop.  In part he was created to fill the role of Religious Advisor for the court as Bishop.  He's quite old and wicked.  At times he can be difficult to play, as I don't want him to just turn out an older version of Roland.  He's scheming and devious.

Derfel Dagorian.  My civvie char.  Not played him as much as I want to.  

Kalam Ravenscar.  My VTC char, the only guilded char not in BoC.  He's a bartender at Swaggers.  As an assassin-type, he's pretty amoral.  In some ways he's my most developed char, partly since I played him on Lake Superior (albeit under an alias), but mainly since he's not really got a specific role.  Ther "dryer" side of my personality is in him.  He's basically my 2-in-the-morning chill-out when I'm too tired to actually do stuff in game, or am browsing the net/typing stuff up at the same time.

Yggdrasill... Why you name him after a tree?

hah! Good point there! *thumbs up* I've waited until someone will notice that :)
It's taken from "The Hyperion Cantos", of which came all names of my UO chars.
The Hyperion Cantos form a tetralogy of science fiction novels by Dan Simmons. The books are:
    * Hyperion (1989)
    * The Fall of Hyperion (1990)
    * Endymion (1996)
    * The Rise of Endymion (1997)
(Check Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperion_Cantos) - provides loads of great infos on this, but beware of spoilers)
Overall it's a load of great reading.

Returning to Qom - he's a lumberjack and a carpenter afterall, so "Yggdrasill" suits him quite well :)

Yggdrasil (according to Norse Lore) is the World Tree although it actually links and contains the different worlds of the Norse lore..

Hrothgar - I won't say everyone knows Hrothgar like some of the stuck up foo's here *Eyes Jen and Khae* ;) . But if you've been in BoC somewhere between the founding and the die of his supposed death he has most likely made some sort of impact on you. He was known as a cruel disciplinary officer and a hardhass all the way to some and also a big snuggle bear to others, mainly Mela. Also the only Sosarian human ever to reach the age of 346.  In short he was the a Captain of the army, founder of the first Covian division "The Blades" and also founder of the Baron's Own Grenadiers.  I've never ever enjoyed playing a character like i did with Hrothgar, he was a tough old bastard that i'll always love to play.

BoC Characters

Raziel Von Richter - The Baron's son and self-proclaimed womanizer of Cove and beyond. Raziel has been quite a conflict for me as i wanted him to be the serious honorable type good guy but i always ended up doing silly things with him like announcing that he sleeps in the nude and urinating on the church etc. Its all good fun but it does go away from the initial concept behind him.


Lucien Mekhet - The mysterious priest, Lucien is a scholar and a man of faith to most but underneath he carries a dark secret. He is usually seen lurking around Cove in night time and rarely leaves the confines of the church. A fairly new character but has a developed background and personality behind him and i look forward to putting him on the scene in the future.

non-BoC

Silas - The witty rogue, Silas is a treacherous yet a humorous individual. He seperates work completely from his personal life for example he might have robbed you one day but the next day he'll walk upto you and ask you for a light for his weed pipe as if nothing ever happened between you two.


Mehmed Alihm - The Sultan of Nujel'm, still being developed fairly much as i don't play him alot i rather play Hrothgar as he is these days the General of Nujel'm. Mehmed like to stay inside the walls of his palace surrounded by guards rather then walk the streets and meet his people.


Thats pretty much it :P

During my time in BoC I mostly played Kazuo Shinrai. With no pvp abilities whatsoever that character was around for pure roleplay only. Whenever I felt a need to bash I logged on Kasei and that used to be it really. I am strongly opposed to alts and feel that if people get the urge to devellop a new character they should stick with it and put their current main in the background as much as possible. Now, while develloping Ro'tzac, Kazuo has been presumed killed and without Kazuo there is not much use for Kasei to be around. But then perhaps Kasei will be found elsewhere under a diffent guise (but for the same purpose, rp-pvp only).

On a side note, one of the most difficult characters to play are shapeshifters and tradition-bound characters.
Moraine DiGoraz, my thief, changes his name and appearance often and therefor does not quite build a reputation. It does give me the opportunity to roleplay him as I see fit every time I log him on though, which is a nice change. The problem I had with Kazuo was his character and personality. Being the head of a criminal organization in addition to being a traditional Japanese samurai (lifestyle, not warrior), his roleplay ability was rather limited. Limited in the ways of goofing off or doing something no one would ever expect that is. It is also one of the reasons I got bored with the character and killing him off (or having him presumed killed) is still many times better than changing a character's personality overnight!

Right, it's late, need sleep.
Best quit now because if it's up to me I could write at least another 5 pages worth of essay on this subject.

I only really have one Char Delc...Ye should know him well enough...

And he's not that similiar to me actually... ;)

No, Delc irl has most of his limbs intact :D

How would you know?

Because they're mates irl?

I'm trying to start a character "Danny Orwens" besides Conan Darkmoon, although I must say it's hard work.  Instead of being the Cool, suave and tough Conan Darkmoon I tried to make him out to be, Conan ended up being viewed by others as a drunken, ugly, fat slob.. What I really want to do is either change everyones opinions about him, or make a character that is actually.. "Loved!"  ;D  Since Danny Orwens is a churchie.. I don't see that happening for him.

It's easy to be loved :) Help out people and be nice...Though granted it sometimes takes some effort

Hmm perusing the list of dusty topics that arnt considered criptic!

My RP history goes back abit to Yahoo RP chats.

Marcus Illinius Kobra (Yahoo version) : Started as your typical medieval fantasy alchemist who was abit of a sorceror, then became an adultoror and got into some shit I'm not fond of... then became a vampire whom i played coldly and cruelly them.. THEN he became this guy who had been basically a slave-warrior who HUNTEd vampires in a post-apocalyptic world, whos beloved was bitten by a young vampire he had allowed to live out of some for of compassion, then of course his drunken rage filled downfall. He is now featured (completly diffrently) in a short story I wrote with him.

Marcus kobra: now my BoC military character and main.

Maccen Jepta Korten: Half angel/Vampire, loved by god as he was the son of an arch angel until the time that he slaughtered a number of small children. from that point he was 'fallen" and consumed by vampiric urges and followed by the laughter of small children, his own voice sometimes sounds liek many small children at once. (also an adultor) Is now the brother of Marcus in my short story

Sir Michael Kivon Vanderick: my homosexual character (decided to try it for the RP value... strange thing is i was convincing o.O;; yea he didnt last long as I started to get creeped out.)
Is the teacher and mentor of Marcus and Maccen Sans Homosexuality is my short story.

Dyril Hastore Morvain commoner of BoC, hes on the verge of being ended now as I dont play him and couldnt get into the whole citizen thing, his state now is one of Reverent insanity towads a "god" only he seems to see. the church is his preceived enemy now.

Someday I'll post in scribes trove my short story involving Marcus, Maccen, and Vandrick!!

I also split time between UO and WoW. i play WoW on the weekends at my friends place becasue he and a number of my squadron amtes play it and its a good way for us to gather for BBQ and other sutff as we play, I keep my after work during the week for UO, and if i get net in my baracks I'll play UO when im not at my buddies.  I love UO for RP but WoW for the game of leveling a character. Ok jsut my information and exprecion on what should probably have remained on the back burner forever. sorry... but was compeled to comment.

I have had three good RP chars. First was LaValle Helbrass, some of you might know him. He was Prelate in Knights Templar years ago and after he got thrown out from KT he joined to Dutchy of Trinsic order and was eventualy elder priest. I don't realy play with him anymore sometimes hunt monsters. Second was my drow from Naeloth named Velg'larn quit playing with him when Naeloth was destroyed. Third one is Dalamar, my only BoC char and I won't do alt. Perhaps new char when I get bored to Dal and I kill him... Which won't happen soon ;)

I think alts often ruins the game, if you can't play with all of them. I wouldn't be able to play many chars at same time. Atleast in the same guild. It's good some of us can.

My main char was Seamus in BoC but when he left the guild for a while i started playing my archer in OH and found it to be more fun so now i barely use my main and spend most time on my crappy archer with terrible skill levels.Guess i agree with some of the other statements that its very hard to truely play and develop more than one char unless you have a hell of alot of time or your very good at what you do.

Every character I have is in BoC.  I usually switch when I feel the need to play a different style.

Kurt Alimar: My main character, love to play him and his personality is purely militaristic.  The character was actually my first one ever made, and I brought him over from Atlantic as a lawful-evil character and changed him to a neutral-good character.  This character is the powerhouse over all my other characters.

Regnier: Usually play this character when I feel like being the enemy of all person.  Originally I made him to be a Cultist, then I decided to tune up his personality and make him truely unique.  What I did was kill him and evolved him from a Ghost to Wraith to A Specter that can make itself look human.  I love this character but sometimes I get a little power hungry on him.  His personality is power hungry, insane, and decieving.

Raziel Narlam: Made this character purely to be an Undead.  I didn't think the Undead never did PvM, but then I found out how one sided the guild was and just became purely PvP.  His personality is RP'd as extremely stupid, and extremely violent.

Shardak: Ah.... Well this character is extremely hard to explain.  He was originally UD which I made to kill Grd or BoC that ganked me on Raziel.  When UD became inactive I created a side story which no one heard, and really I got a lot of crap for.  Well anyways he's still Undead but just looks alive, much like Regnier.  RP'd as a lonewolf sort of character, and extremely distant from the other guardsmen.

Markus: Second character I ever made that I also had transfered over from Atlantic.  Rarely play him, but his personality is pretty developed to be slightly ecstatic.  He's not really stupid or insane, just RP'd as extremely impulsive.

Well those are my characters, and I think alot of them are unique.  I just really need to develop Shardaks personality, because I never really intended him to be like this.

Why would you want to be loved? wheres the fun in that? nemesis's are far cooler than friends

Main: Darek Milako: Darek is a young soldier. When put in charge he will be strict but kind about everything. Not a hard head and has a youthful shyness to him. A very proud person and is up for anything. He tries to get along with everybody but some people he finds annoying and will let them know it.
Alt: Stephanie H: My neighbor gave me this character due to she's in Iraq*U.S Army* She told me that Stephanie was a war hungry hot headed Nu'jelm girl. She is very strict but has a dark side. She is against the church and doesn't take to kindly to alot of people. To get on her good side you have to work for it. She likes to be a thug and rob people. That's her dark side. I don't believe my neighbor has made her do anything yet but since Darek is on my "for now" frozen account I will play her more.
Alt: Charlie Brown: Charlie is Darek's cousin and was made for crafting. He's a polite gentleman and is sort've a slave. He is gullable to believe anything and tries to talk with the most proper brittanian he can. Actually being poor he plays off that he is rich and well known. Not much to him. Just needed a crafter.

But I will agree, alt's are hard to have due to the time u must share with each character. Some get more play and the others become a fade to everybody's memory. If you are a strong enough player than having Alts can come easy. But I think they're hard to do.

It wasn't always like that you know.
Besides, a guild kind of becomes what you make it.

Hence overall it's not that good to have alts in the same guild. Personally I have two other chars, not guilded and I'm sure that long time would have to pass if I'll even consider guilding them. As you say - it's close to impossible to well-develop RP of two chars in the same guild. Guards are always so busy on hunts, trainings, cadres and stuff. On the other hand, you must spend lots of time to develop your civ, cause it's even more about RPing that guards. Well, if one has enough time to spend to have alts and make them different and well experienced and developed both RP and in skills, it's okay. If not, I say that it's better to have one char and focus on it's "growth".

It depends on how long you have developed and played ONE character. When that character is a veteran in whatever guild. It's not that hard to create a new one, with all new traits and features.

I play Three chars at the moment. I still dunno which one to go for, and rp much with, Im still gettig used to the Game again.

Evan Anno Rettis, Commoner [BoC]

Franek, Guardsman Recruit [BoC]

Kiet Echtaris, Guardsman Recruit [BoC]

i think i manage to pull off differant character traits fairly well tbh..

Anyone who compares Dit and Karne will see they like exact opposites

That's what I did... I brought Kurt over and raised him to Regular and then decided to bring markus over.  Once that got old I made the rest of my characters.  I don't have time for a sixth one as of now.

It's very hard to have two different kind of characters in the same guild.
I had no problem having John and Jack differently when John was in Grd. But I find myself making Jack a bit more silly and John more serious at times. So it's hard, but not impossible!

As said above, I've got two characters I spread my time equally amongst, Lil'alure and Khaelieth, Khaelieth being the opposite of Lil'alure. I agree with Dell, it is difficult at times.

Yeah to cope with that problem I made both my BoC chars Japanese. :P
But then ofcourse Moraine had to be spawned and ruin it all!
Luckily he can use a disguise kit and pose Japanese, problem solved.

Huurrr? how does the 2 of them being "japanese" and Digoraz being able to disgues as such make it easyer!?!?!  *is dedfully confused and confounded*