The Altmere Question!

[Takeamada]

Can members please refrain from hosting events, military or otherwise in the former Covian province of the Altmere.

Cove's western border stops at the Altmere Outpost and all lands west of it are controlled by the Loyalists and have been since the province was lost during the Border Wars.

Any events being held west of the Altmere Outpost are taking place behind enemy lines and thus are unacceptable in terms of believable roleplay, not to mention them being disrespectful to guilds such as LB, CS-B and Grd who fought so hard and so well to claim this area during the Border Wars scenario.

You wouldn't host a training or a market in Stone Keep or any other enemy town and the Altmere is no different.

Please use Cove's own facilities such as the Memorial Square, Green Goblin Tavern, Town Hall and Barracks etc. as well as Cove town itself of course.

Thank you.

The Cove Command Team.

Well not trying to stir crap up, but maybe someone should have looked at were members lived before the lines were drawn?  There is only so much space in Cove for homes, you have 8 or more plots in Altmere that are used by members of Cove, how does this effect us IC?  Do we pack and move or come under the control of one of the controlling guilds?

[Raiden Morana]

Players have houses all over the lands, from Felucca to Malas and everywhere in between. It doesn't affect you roleplaying a Covian or indeed roleplaying in Cove and it shouldn't mean that BoC guild events are held at these far flung locations while buildings such as the Green Goblin, Town Hall and Memorial Square go to waste, not to mention actually hosting events and roleplaying the people of Cove in Cove town itself.

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As for having homes in enemy territory and how it effects individuals IC, forgive me but i don't see how it does.

If you are in your home no-one can "see" through walls, no-one can "see" your guild tag and no-one would have any reason to enter your home unannounced or uninvited. If they do it is poor RP on their behalf. If you are walking unarmed to your residence and encounter hostile forces the odd insult may be exchanged but if you make it clear you are headed home then no violence should ensue. Again if it does it is poor RP and the chances are unlikely anyway.

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Unfortunately when trying to co-ordinate large multi guild scenarios such as the Border Wars Campaign and the events and consequences such campaigns entail it is not only impossible but impractical to legislate for every BoC member's house when drawing up battle lines. Hence the military strongpoints of the Altmere Outpost and the then Grenadier HQ were chosen as suitable fall back locations should the allied forces fail to win the day, rather than having a border weaving around every BoC owned house in the area.

With that said, for people who do want to relocate closer to Cove there are several spaces for housing dotted around the Baronship and i know that Garak Nightchill has offered to give the stable building up to any BoC member who is interested too. There's also a building near the town gates decaying so there is plenty of scope to place a house in Cove.

I guess it's a choice of how much people really want to move to Cove against how much they value larger plots elsewhere.

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To me the issue isn't about where people place their houses, the location of character's homes are irrelevant. It's about holding guild events and roleplaying in Cove. Not anywhere else and certainly not in enemy territory. IC it just wouldn't happen and to do so is disrespectful to the controlling guild.

We are roleplaying the community of Cove so it follows that the everyday events of the lives of our characters should be centred around Cove and not anywhere else no? If someone wants the services of a blacksmith or alchemist they shouldn't have to leg it a dozen screens to try and find one. Surely the Covians roleplaying such characters and offering these services would be found in the hustle and bustle of Cove town and the Baronship Household?

We ARE the Baronship of Cove. Not the Baronship of Altmere or anywhere else afterall.

~ Raiden.

[Kiko]

First I'd like to say, this topic doesn't actaully affect me as I don't actually have a house on this shard.

But I've seen how creative people can be with their RP, and honestly there isn't alot of space to be had right around Cove, so isn't there some sort of compromise? I mean if the guild contines to grow, won't this become an even bigger problem? As for Altmere being in enemy lands....from an RP perspective I can see that point...from a relistic point of view though, I've never seen anyone in Altmere that wasn't a covian, Railen, or some nonRPing Blue. Yes much of my RP is in Altmere, though I try to visit cove as much as I can. (Love Hoagie's Apples at the Square!)

[Radek Wilkes]

To be fair, you can't expect the loyalist guilds to keep members posted at every boarder that they own, because with todays player-base it's impossible.

You own a house in Altmere, fine, use it.
You'd have to be discreet about how you got there from a RP point of view, but no-one is stopping you using it. Just if you were caught going there as a Covian then the loyalist might put extra taxes on your house, or something more sadistic. 

It's similar to 8 Grd walking into Cove and setting up a Grd garrison there, it wouldn't be done because we -assume- that not all Covian guards are asleep when the guild is logged out.

[Kelly Sanderson]

Or why doesn't everyone stop having a benny over something that really, honestly DOESN'T matter and play the bloody game?!

Roleplay it out for Christ's sake. No need for a full thread on it.

Okay.
I love you.
Buhbye

[Raven]

I second that, but with that said, i prefer events in Cove.. at least i know where im going ¬_¬

[Marcus Kobra]

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