Grenadier ideas thread!

[userjosh5368]

I like it and i sent you a few ideas on requirements and merit names,going to be more attending things in Grenadier training sessions as ive been saying if we do two or even three a week if we have time we can fit everyone in that may miss something.

Easier for people who can log in certain days like Eve,Myself,Tyrael etc.


Anyhow lets keep this thread going some inpsiring ideas resently! Come babble your ideas!


P.S. Raiden make us a Grenadier babble board

[Raiden Morana]

P.S. Raiden make us a Grenadier babble board

Grenadier babblers will be cleansed by fire!!!!

I like it and i sent you a few ideas on requirements and merit names,going to be more attending things in Grenadier training sessions as ive been saying if we do two or even three a week if we have time we can fit everyone in that may miss something.

Easier for people who can log in certain days like Eve,Myself,Tyrael etc.

Thanks Dem, we'll see if we can get some proposals up soon and see what people think.

With regard to Grenadier trainings we do seem to be scattered all over the place time wise but Eve and I will try and host them at suitable times.

But as a Senior Grenadier feel free to run Security Checks or Wilderness Trainings etc. for Grenadiers & aspiring Grenadiers plus other ranks can attend these too.

However I'd like to keep Interrogations and Explosive Courses just for Grenadiers & aspiring Grenadiers for the moment at least.

[Raiden Morana]

Okay here's my thinking on some internal Grenadier squad medals/merits.

I don't think we need a medal for each and every Grenadier duty as it waters down the honour's importance. So what I'm proposing is this:


Bodyguard Training, Baronial Sentries, Security Checks, Escorts & Patrol Rotas would all come under the same umbrella.

Possible name for the medal: High Protector Of Cove or whatever we think is swish etc.

If we can get someone to make us some nice images this one could possibly incorporate a Port Cullis, which is also the Baron's Coat Of Arms.


Our Explosives experts should receive some form of medal/merit too.

Possible name: Master Bombardier... Or somesuch.

This medal could incorporate the flaming grenade emblem of the Grenadiers?


Next I think some sort of "drill instructor" medal for leading trainings in general but mainly Wilderness/Hardening Trainings.

Possible name: Survival Master etc. Or maybe something more generic to cover training in general?

Not really thought of an emblem for this medal? Ideas?


Interrogation medal. I'd like to do more interrogations so the Grenadiers can really make their mark as the "Baron's Own". Anyone speaks out of line against the Baron and we whisk them off to the cells for a liberal dose of torture etc.

Possible name: The Baron's Hammer etc. etc.

Emblem: A smiths hammer etc. obviously dependant on the name etc.


So there are my suggestions, a medal/merit for Upholding Security, Training Mastery, Explosives Expertise & Interrogations.

Please discuss.

[Tyrael]

They sound good.. but maybe when I'm a little more awake I'll have to think about it a little more, and try to possible get a few more ideas out there..

[Raiden Morana]

Any ideas for Grenadier Merit/Medal names and or designs chaps?

[Raiden Morana]

Baron's Hammer = Interrogation Specialist = Hammer design badge?

High Protector of Cove = Security Check, Patrol Rota, Escort & Bodyguard Specialist = Portcullis design badge?

Hardened Instructor = Cadre, Parade Drill, Wilderness/Hardening/Misc. Training Specialist = ?? ?? design badge.

?? ?? ?? = Explosives Specialist = Flaming Grenade design badge?

What do you think?

Struggling at the moment to come up with a suitable name for the Explosives Specialist merit and also a possible design for the Hardened Instructor merit.

Any ideas?

[Raiden Morana]

Would be fun, training with them. Dunno if you think it's a good idea, just a suggestion like...
I'll try to organize it if you want, but if you wish to there's the besieger leaders icq.

132-135-147, Sineal Walker, Besieger Corp.

Inny.

Sounds like fun bud - try and arrange it for when we have a good turn out

[userjosh5368]

Would be fun, training with them. Dunno if you think it's a good idea, just a suggestion like...
I'll try to organize it if you want, but if you wish to there's the besieger leaders icq.

132-135-147, Sineal Walker, Besieger Corp.

Inny.

Sounds like fun bud - try and arrange it for when we have a good turn out

Sounds good to me, will help build are teamwork skills and combat also, always a good laugh .

[Raiden Morana]

A return to the Covian army of course means a return of The Baron's Own Grenadiers, so if you have any ideas for the squad fire away.

Please keep this thread on topic. Babble will be cleansed with Grenadier efficiency.

Raiden, Commander.

[Marcus Kobra]

A small list of ideas, and possible implementation (If I ca ever nthink of them)

• Grenadier Tasks: In work as  per Baronial Wine mission discussion.
• Rekindle the Grenadier internal merits and awards Idea: A great idea i feel still, just need some final designs for emblems I thinks? Discuss.
• Making Certain Grenny Uniforms are the same hue. After last nights mention, though I hate bowing to tyranny and oppression especially from the uneducated. He was right. I know that in the long run this will be uneconomical. I also know that Dem was taking care of the one issue but for future reference we may wish to stay atop it for uniform issue. Speaking of which I have an extra shield if anyone needs it!
• Squad Rolemodeling: We should be the rolemodels to the Main block, hence the general bashing of the Covian army as a general entity should STOP. Bashing the arcanists and the scouts is one thing, its squad rivalry but this irreverent and rude behaviour towards regular army members will hurt general opinion. Interrogations, and regulations should indeed be carried out with due diligence and curtness but day to day activities with members of good standing in the army should be conducted with courtesy. These are our "little Brothers" and the stock from which future legends shall rise. On a separate note, guardsmen should be reminded of courtesy towards civilians, I am seeing alt of "Go to hell your only a civ"
• The Grenadier song, I heard there was a rewrite in the works? Shall we discuss this possibility as well or does Keres have this in hand?
• Bombs, Do we have a stock standing by available to grenadiers to stock up on (within reason and good judgment)? If not I've an alchemist and can start producing in limited quantaties.
• Tavern nights; Grenadier style. I feel we grenadiers should host a tavern night/crawl of some time at least two times a month. The art of swagger should be expressed! The idea is that we have invited everyone to drinks at a tavern where they can see how Grenadiers do things. I also hope this will give some IC inventiveness to other members and make us more visible.
• Medical classes. Marcus (as soon as I do the research) will start holding classes for Grenadiers/potentials concerning burn and shrapnel wound care, seeing as bombs and such are our job, all of us should have IC knowledge of how to treat for these injuries. Any information you have will help especially if the information is more medieval in nature rather than 22ND century stuff.

I think that's everything I have right now, some ideas, some reminders, a personal rant, and not much  else.

Cheers mates.

[Raiden Morana]

Some good points raised Marcus.

~ Grenadier Tasks WILL be returning. We'll try to make these as entertaining as possible and tie them in with current world events and themes of the day.

~ I quite liked some of the internal Grenadier merit ideas. It's be nice to have some swish images for people's signatures but not essential. Feel free to discuss the merits that have been brought up in previous discussions. They can be added to personal/character profiles if nothing else.

~ Uniformity is key. Those people lucky enough to own dyed valorite gear please make certain you have the correct hued dyes. I know these are increasingly hard to come by, especially bronze but if it means wearing bronze arms with a shadow dyed suit, at the expense of your resists so be it. I've had to do it for long enough and we are roleplayers first and foremost afterall.

~ Grenadiers not only should lead by example. They are EXPECTED to. Both IC & OOC. Try and mentor people as best you can and offer help and advice where needed. Bollocking and punishments should be handed out to lower ranks if called for. Instilling discipline is very much what Grenadiers are about. However any 'wisdom' imparted should be done so as it will save people's lives in the long run and not for the sake of wielding power.

~ A rewrite of the Grenadier Song!? Blasphemy! The Grenadier Song harks back to the very origins of the guild. However if we can add a verse regailing the deeds of Greystone, Ahmed, Arkay and Vince and it doesn't make it sound too rubbish then I'm all for it.

~ More squad events are a must and also on the agenda. Whether they be brotherhood hunts, wilderness exercises, wine trips with the baron or even our own internal armsmaster tournament. Again keep an eye out as these events will be coming soon.

~ The Grenadiers of old were more of a defensive unit and therefore skilled medics. However today's squad is more of a hybrid as we hope to also take on some of the offensive roles formerly carried out by the Dragoons. But I love the idea of Grenadiers undertaking and having to be fairly well qualified battlefield medics so IC medical training sounds good to go along with explosives courses, wilderness training and practicing interrogation techniques.

That's my thoughts on the points you've raised matey.

I'm currently trying to put together a Grenadier's Handbook for display on the Squad's private board as a guide to the Grenadier way of life. I'm battling against the time constraints that my duties put on me both IC and OOC but I may post up what I have already and add to it as and when I get chance.

Hopefully it will be of some value.

As Vince used to say, there's two ways to do things. The wrong way and the Grenadier way.

[Demarian Tel'var]

I've got armour and weapons covered what my smith is there for Im trying to get hold of a bulk of Bronze dyes but no luck...so far Contact me Grenadier's for a custom built armour suit.

[Linaeus]

Grenadier Song

It doesnt rhyme, it doesnt come anywhere near following its own tune, and it disses the Avatar, Lithos, and two Commanders. Its hardly in keeping with what the Grenadiers stand for. The song itself is based on "The British Grenadiers", more specifically the first verse. I'll provide a link to a video where part of the song is sung...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x0aE14YoAc

The lyrics of the original version of the borrowed verse are;
Some talk of Alexander,
And some of Hercules
Of Hector and Lysander,
And such great names as these.
But of all the world's great heroes,
There's none that can compare
With a tow, row, row, row, row, row,
To the British Grenadier.

The current Covian Grenadier song is;
“Some talk of Avatar,
And some of Lithos,
Of Eason and Mavis,
And such great names as these,
But of all Sosaria’s great heroes there is none that can compare,
To the tow, row, row, row, row
Of the Covian grenadier!”

Personally, I'd prefer a rewritten version that actually makes sense and actually gives a bit of lyrical reinforcement to the qualities we're trying to express with the Grenadiers and as Covians. It's not exactly good form to name two major religious figures and two famous Covian leaders as people you're better than, if you're trying to be good examples.

Just toying around a bit, here's what I've got;
Some talk of the Besiegers,
And some the Nihonese,
Of Drakan and the Guardsmen,
And such great names as these,
But of all the world's great heroes,
Theres none that can compare
To the tow, row, row, row, row, row
Of the Covian Grenadiers!

It says we're better than our rival heavy infantry squad, the 'Siegers...
It says we're better than the Nihonese, who're renowned for discipline and honor.
It says we're better than a famous Yewish leader as well as all of his men.
Whats there not to like?

[Marcus Kobra]

Good point

[Raiden Morana]

Heh... I didn't know OUR Grenadier song was take from THE Grenadier song.

The again, I should have probably guessed.

I'n at work at the minute so unfortunately I can't listen to the clip.

S'good. And that version of the song could certainly be sung with gusto in a negative sense, defaming foriegn squads, leadership and sackers of Cove. However I still think I'd prefer the song to be about Cove and her heroes or perhaps mention legendary figures from UO lore as the RL song features heroes from legend.

I don't think the original song is necessarily meant to detract from the great heroes of the Trojan War, in fact my interpretation is that it hails them as the heroes they are but simply adds that a Grenadier, through his deeds can aspire to be even greater than these heroes of antiquity.

Some talk of Hrothgar
Of Arkay and Eason
And such great names as these
But of all Sosaria's great heroes, there are none that can compare
To the tow, row, row, row
Of a Baron's Own Grenadier

How's that for a slight reworking?

We could perhaps keep both versions in usage? The politically correct version for use in more sensitive situations and the more defamatory version for use on rowdy tavern nights and peace talks? ;p

I do think our existing version needs bringing up to date as publicly hailing an archangel (that later became revered by the Highlanders) might not go down particularly well with the Church and not many people will have heard of Mavis, who I believe was Cove's first Captain?