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Joey Lanai
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« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2006, 11:28:05 pm »

The Class system rocks.

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It's based on Combat skill, Leadership, Creativity, Discipline, and time served in the squad. Basically the Dragoon code of conduct, the more you stick to it, the higher you'll get.

Feel free to use my idea, it only proves that i'm a genius.
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« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2006, 12:09:19 am »

I've always wondered myself, does your internal ranking not clash with the official army rank structure Joe?

An example:

A regular dragoon and a junior dragoon are outside the barracks, the junior happens to be higher in the Internal Dragoon structure but does the Regular still hold the right to boss the Junior around?
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« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2006, 12:12:40 am »

Yeah, that could potentially be an issue.

But I think class is more used to reflect experience and respect due, within the squad, rather than authority?
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« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2006, 10:14:41 am »

That's exactly what I'm proposing Tom. Smiley For all the Squads, really!
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« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2006, 04:00:09 pm »

What Tom said, and it also gives authority in a battle situation.

For example if there was a battle and Joey wasnt there, Vinc or Nic would take command and call targets/give orders etc, as they are next in the chain and know the tactics better.
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« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2006, 04:43:13 pm »

I don't like an internal class system personally, but I do agree that some sort of distinction within the unit is in order. I'd rather call it "honors", than "class" though.
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« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2006, 06:02:28 pm »

I must admit I have had a little change of heart on this subject.

We work hard as a unit and the chain of command is simple - baron, sergeant, senior, regular...

The class system works fine for the Dragoons as skirmishers so the ranking combat specialist can call targets etc. But Grenadier's orders are simple - protect the Baron... period!

I doubt there'd be a situation where the baron, sergeant and senior weren't present and if that did arise it would hardly be a unit of Grenadiers, it would just be two or three Grenadiers attached with the army and as such they would be under the command of whichever ranking officer is present.

I do however like the idea of more well attended Grenadier events where we can learn from eacother and keep a competitive edge... as well as have some fun.
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« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2007, 11:02:49 am »

It's grand to see the squad looking so healthy again!

What with the return of Salidin and Darek and the emergence of Watchman Eve along with old timers Vince, Raiden, Demarian and Gimbly.

This being the case we cant rest on our laurels, we have to push on further to keep the Baron's Own Grenadiers the Covian army's number one squad!

Regular Grenadier Trainings

Vince and I will host these trainings once a week - Monday 8pm GMT onwards seems to be the prime time to get most Grenadiers online but this is of course flexible.

These trainings will cover the roles and behaviour expected of a Grenadier as well as practical training in the arts of explosives and combat with the odd brotherhood hunt or Grenadier task thrown in!

We want to make these trainings as fun and informative as possible and any ideas are welcome.

Also during these trainings any of the attending Grenadiers may be called upon to lead a section - whether it be the hunt part or combat training etc... Just so Vince and I can keep you on your toes.


Mentorship

We need to keep aspiring Grenadiers in the pipeline!

Looking at the squad at the moment we have a Sergeant, Corporal, Dem's closing in on Senior Guardsman, Gimbly and Salidin are regulars and Darek is closing on on Regular so there's a wealth of experience there that can be passed on to apprentices.

Now if like me you've had apprentices disappear on tasks or killed in action (it happens to us all), just cross them off your list and look for a new one! *grins*


Grenadier Behaviour

A Grenadier is the example of discipline to the other squads/ranks and would never be seen to disobey superiors, act in a disorderly fashion or indeed criticise the church. I don't think this happens now but we don't want things to slip.

Also Vince and I want to give the squad a sterner feel overall, to make it a little less jokey (although we are the worst sinners here) without taking the fun away. Of course on Grenadier only events we can share a joke with our brother/sister Grenadiers.


Grenadier Kit

As mentioned before in this thread by Erik a Grenadier should have plenty of kit to hand out to recruits etc. who have had their stuff nicked by mongbats.

Don't consider this extra kit, to a Grenadier it is his regular kit!

So at all times make sure you have at least 1 extra parade arm, torch and bedroll.

Added to this, as half the squad are archers i want to see the shieldfighters carry at least 100 bolts & arrows as a backup for their comrades. These maybe carried inside a quiver (that is dyed shadow to suit our armour) and the quiver may only be equiped on hunts etc. No dawdling about on parade with a bloodeh quiver strapped to yer back!

Of course copious amounts of bandies (at least 400) and nightsight potions etc. are to be carried along with plenty of conflag and explosive potions.

Keep to it - you will be tested. (If you need any supplies stick a post on the citizen boards - in fact i may place a bulk Grenadier order *ponders*)


I think that's it for now, although i've probably forgot something.

So please discuss and stick down any ideas/opinions you may have.

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« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2007, 11:26:59 am »

Quite right. As far as the discipline side goes, this is more trying to get a more ridgid feel to the Grenadiers, and doesn't mean we'll stop having a shedload of Grenadier fun Wink

I agree a weekly Grenadier training at the said time would be good for the squad, so like them man says, lets us know if you're totally unavailble on Mondays at 8pm and we'll work something out so that each and every Grenadier gets the full experience.

All in all, keep at it guys, and I'm sure we'll see the grenadiers reach even higher ground
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« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2007, 03:46:59 pm »

Training is always fun yet i think we should have like three types.

1.practical a hunt pratice of bombs and conflag potions as well as formations as Grenadiers should have there own.  As we the best! and you other squads know it!

2.Drill,orders and Kit inspection to keep us in top shape ETC Grenadier kit is unifrom,2 halberd,400-500 bandages + Grenadier shield and conflag and explosive potions.

3.Protection of the baron set a scenario up where other squads can help in this manner Grenadiers nominate a person as the baron and have to escort him to an area or keep him standing for the battle,other squads or army members act as attackers unless Grenadier hopefulls if no other than grenadiers and hopefuls spilt the teams and try the exercise.

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« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2007, 03:52:33 pm »

We've tried some of these ideas before, and they worked quite well I feel, so we can definitly implement them into trainings.

I also like the idea of Gimblys house becoming the Grenadier HQ. We had a donation from Xander a while back, to be used for grenadier matters, and I'm sure that'll help towards decorating/building the place
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« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2007, 03:57:23 pm »

We've tried some of these ideas before, and they worked quite well I feel, so we can definitly implement them into trainings.

I also like the idea of Gimblys house becoming the Grenadier HQ. We had a donation from Xander a while back, to be used for grenadier matters, and I'm sure that'll help towards decorating/building the place

HAR!!! HEAR HEAR!

Huzzah for Xander and for Gimbly Wink

Good ideas Dem' keep 'em coming!
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« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2007, 10:58:41 am »

State of now




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« Reply #43 on: January 20, 2007, 10:58:38 pm »

So i guess i have the final design now.. So if nayone else has anything we  need ill finalize it tomorrow.
As this will be the Grenadier halls , ill let Eve doin the deco things, whatever if shes doin an event is up to her.
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« Reply #44 on: January 29, 2007, 09:58:13 am »

Yeah I like the idea of swearing the Baron's oath just before the promotion parade for anyone being accepted into the Grenadiers - A quick screenie and post it at the end of their completed trials?
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