Discouraging to say the least

[Marcus Kobra]

Straight from Americas very own CNN (Crummy News Network)

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/02/14/children.survey.reut/index.html

check that link and tell me if the US and a few of her allies dont sound well.... good!!

No wonder there is emo and goths   *looks atself in the mirror* "Now is that really why you are how you are??? hmm nope"

[Shadwell]

Child well-being was rated highest in northern Europe, with the Netherlands, Sweden and Denmark leading the list.

Your point being?

[Marcus Kobra]

My country and them SEE-O-FIST-IC-ATED Brits scored least!! arg!! im moving to the netherlands damnit!!

[Shadwell]

That's what you get for being isolated on an island for ages 

[Grief Dryfh Gry]

Ha! Dutch sophistication, we beat the rest! We are truly the most advanced race on earth.

[Jack Sinist (•̪●)]

Hmpf! Close second

[Octiovus]

While I usually tend to stay away from politics on the BoC forums, being the Baron (a man of action and war, not babbling!) I think the this isn't all too surprising, although disappointing. It seems to me increasingly American culture has become predominant amongst the youth here in Britain; and thus has linked the results of the two nations together. To a degree Britain is just becoming an example of America's problems on a smaller scale. It isn't surprising that Sweden and the Netherlands topped the list, owing to their comparatively smaller population and considerable wealth.

Britain is a fairly varied place in terms of distribution of wealth, and therefore, this shows in the results. I think it would have been fairer if the UK was split into its individual countries (Wales, Northern Ireland, Scotland, England) for the terms of a more accurate comparison. I don't deny Britain overall has a problem with its youth; this is clear to see on the streets. It will be interesting to see what the government does with such information. More likely than not, they'll spend vast amounts on consultants and give teenagers iPods if they don't mug old people.

[Erik Arkay/Evinyatar]

Social interaction and antropology in general change rapidly.

If you'd try to explain to a fellow human living in the early nineteenhundreds that your child would not be starting to work in a sweatshop by the age of nine you'd probably never get your point through.

If you'd try to explain to your fellow man in the middleages that the sun didn't revolve around the earth you probably would have been burned at the stake.

Wether or not those are 'good' evolutions depend on your view of good and wrong. But realise that your vision of good and wrong is also highly biased and probably unfounded.

Now enough of this serious babble and let's get back to discussing pee!

[Marcus Kobra]

Wasnt attempting to be political here, I was jsut shocked and well a little upset that my home country came in SECOND to last! And yes I didnt include it in my post but I do feel that the UK should have been split into its individual um... Parishes? Counties?? States?? Things?? yeah things covers jsut about everything!!

Norway, sweden being wealthy? It was pointed out that some of the poorer countries had the better standard of living for youths.

Anyway I liek this babble better than your PEE Mister Arkay!

Oh and does the Baron not sound likes hes a proffesional??? not to mention OLD???

J/K!! damnit hes gonna behead us all!!!

[Khaelieth]

Having lived in Norway and now living in Scotland... I say that the U.K. and Norway just whine more than the rest. I had a great upbringing (Not saying all had!)!

Like: Everyone does get teased at some point in life, to a lesser or greater degree. It's how you tackle it yourself. If you let it bring you down, you lose.
Then you've got restrictions. A family member (Delc and Snud might know, perhaps even Smud) whines and whines about how she can't be allowed to drink when she was thirteen. There's a lot more to it that I chose not to divulge, but they're spoiled. I've had a GF that lacked NOTHING but still was emo. You've gotta feel sorry for those who sit inside at night feeling sorry for themselves without any specific reason.

I'm not saying a lot of kids don't need a better upbringing, but that there's a lot out there who whine, attempting to be sad, in a futile attempt to get some affection. They're just spoiled. I know a few who've had to deck their parents to avoid being knifed to death. That's tough.

[Jack Sinist (•̪●)]

Norway, sweden being wealthy? It was pointed out that some of the poorer countries had the better standard of living for youths.

You DID NOT just call my nation poor!

I consider Sweden more wealthy then the USA in more then one way. We take care of our children, we take care of our unemployed, we take care of our old. We take care of our ill and we take care of our immigrants. I don't know what you're getting at, but calling my country poor when you have more loans then dead soldiers is ignorant and rather rude in my opinion!

[Khaelieth]

Errr... Sweden is a lot better off economically than the U.S. According to some statistics I've read, close to 30% of the total population of the U.S. live in poverty. This is counting illegal immigrants, though it's only an estimation.

EDIT: And this is why political/social issues shouldn't be discussed.

[Jack Sinist (•̪●)]

Economically is not the only way for a nation to be rich either. We're generally more happy in Sweden -- Unlike a report created by an American who needed to find a weakness of the success that Sweden had even though having a social democratic goverment and a big wel fare system, who claimed that Sweden was one of the top nations in suicide, which was a lie as we are very far down on that list.

I am quiet frankly hurt and insulted by your claims!

[Marcus Kobra]

Ahem.. I was pointing out something said in the report... was not saying sweden was poor.... Did anyone of you READ the report?? sheesh. I would never  insult someones country on purpose, and if I entended to I'd do it to their face so theyd have the chance to hit me if they wished. It was pointed out in the report that wealth had NOTHING to do with the quality of living and ointed ou that some of the other countries who dont have that high of a Gross Per Capita had better markings.. that didnt MEAN all the top 1-5 are poor and that the 5-10 are rich bastards with way too much money on their hands.

My country (USA) is in so much debt I cant see us comming out of it in the next 100 years! but hey thats why money is digital and we have credit cards and a few other things I wont mention!! I'l lalso admit that the netherlands in general have terrific health and welfare services!! Canada also seems great!

And I do beleive that report was formed in the EU not in America

[Jack Sinist (•̪●)]

Right.. well apology accepted then.

..>_>